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  What is one word

  by John Doe in

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  that can infuritate you just by itself, context unimportant?

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  Are You Idealistic?

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  in the past, i was pretty idealistic.

  i believe this is what attracted me to the witnesses' idea of a perfect paradise on earth.

  i was a teenager when i first was contacted by them and quite disillusioned with life.

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  Without the Utopians of other times, men would still live in caves, miserable and naked. It was Utopians who traced the lines of the first City…..Out of generous dreams come beneficial realities. Utopia is the principle of all progress, and the essay into a better future.
  - Anatole France So in short yes I am an idealist

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  Are You Idealistic?

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  in the past, i was pretty idealistic.

  i believe this is what attracted me to the witnesses' idea of a perfect paradise on earth.

  i was a teenager when i first was contacted by them and quite disillusioned with life.

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  In his chief work Truth, Antiphon wrote: "Time is a thought or a measure, not a substance". This presents time as an ideational, internal,mental operation, rather than a real, external object.

  If even time is idealism then where and when does the real begin ?

  Caliber
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  thinking vs. feeling.. must we choose just one ?

  by caliber in

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  thinkingthinkers decide based primarily on logic, and when they do so, they consider a decision to be made.

  they tend to see the world in black and white and dislike fuzziness.

  feelingfeelers decide based primarily through social considerations, listening to their heart and considering the feelings of others.

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  If we feel the feelings of our hopes and dreams as already answered... In this we invoke the ancient quantum principle stating that conditions within our bodies are mirrored in the world beyond. http://www.greggbraden.net/

  Without the Utopians of other times, men would still live in caves, miserable and naked. It was Utopians who traced the lines of the first City…..Out of generous dreams come beneficial realities. Utopia is the principle of all progress, and the essay into a better future.
  - Anatole France

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  ** If God is love, you cannot fear him **

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  you will find a host of books and articles that discuss the polar opposites of love and fear.

  the bible shows two opposing gods.

  personally, i believe god is love and the angry god of fear is an imposter.

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  caliber

  Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
  Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
  Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
  Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
  Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations.
  But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it. - Buddha
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  thinking vs. feeling.. must we choose just one ?

  by caliber in

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  thinkingthinkers decide based primarily on logic, and when they do so, they consider a decision to be made.

  they tend to see the world in black and white and dislike fuzziness.

  feelingfeelers decide based primarily through social considerations, listening to their heart and considering the feelings of others.

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  Even if a person is keen on being logical, it doesn't mean they don't also follow their heart. Since when are the two separate? I hope that I am both..~. FreudianSlip

  Um..a person can be logical and compassionate at the same time. One does not negate the other ~

  I think that one does negate the other on any given individual situation or else you are conflicted

  For peace of mind and a settled heart conclusions MUST be reached !

  While we each have a "preference" in arriving at decisions, we all think AND feel. One tends to dominate the other, but they are both there.~ Changeling

  If we allow any given decision to float unresolved or back and forth there is inner conflict !

  I am both

  and I think that's why I suffer anxiety! I am creative, but I am also a critical thinker ~FHN

  two capabilities rise to the occasion at the appropriate times. The real trick for many people is balancing the two qualities out and knowing when to emphasize one over the other ~ Flipper

  The two thinking modes of thinking or feeling can not co-exist in one given thought pattern situation without conflict.. an unsettled Battle in you heart and mind !

  Hi Caliber, hope all is well.
  I am not from the WT but, don’t you think that even when you are not suppose to have independent thinking, the Witnesses use that (thinking wherever the teachings are wrong or not), more that what they feel (with the heart). As a matter of fact, a have read in a few sites that sometimes people are manipulated (correct me if I am wrong), "to never trust your own heart", "wait on Jehovah", "leave it in Jehovah's hands", "don't run ahead". With means that every time that a situation arise that requires to trust your feelings, the teachings kicks in.
  So, in my opinion, even if you think that those people are using their heart, they are not. They are using the thinks that are indoctrinated in their minds and overwriting all the feeling, guts, "social considerations, listening to their heart and considering the feelings of others" and replacing it with logic (whatever that is within the organization), so they "tend to see the world in black and white and dislike fuzziness".
  Sorry if a make no sense, as a matter of fact I use my feelings more.
  Ismael

  I agree with Ismael that most WT thinking is dominated by "so-called" true logic

  This is exactly opposite to my opening statement below( rather many still believe logic must dominate)

  since leaving the Wt. that many believe that logic must rule.. never again let your heart sway you.~Caliber

  ( the heart has not been allow to hold sway) new added thought apart from quote)

  It is now a time to free yourself from logic to more feeling .... not to be stuck in the WT. logic mode I believe that because I had much personnel choice about being active in "the truth "

  I never lost my feeling mode I served because I "wanted to " (at that time ) I always

  had options as to what I" wished to do."However I realize that for 95% of former Witnesses

  great external force was present .. it became a matter of "having to serve "..thus their

  dominant mode of operation remains that of "logic" over "feeling "

  You must choose "feeling"to dominate to become the real you.. to free heart not just your mind !

  Let the true super-conscious you shine freely through ! Void that inner conflict of floating

  unresolved .. leave anxiety behind in the dust ! Become within your mind and your "heart

  hearts" that person that you should have and now MUST BE !

  This for me today is a great EPIPHANY....... a sudden, intuitive perception of or insight into the reality or essential meaning of something

  Caliber
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  thinking vs. feeling.. must we choose just one ?

  by caliber in

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  thinkingthinkers decide based primarily on logic, and when they do so, they consider a decision to be made.

  they tend to see the world in black and white and dislike fuzziness.

  feelingfeelers decide based primarily through social considerations, listening to their heart and considering the feelings of others.

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  Thinking

  Thinkers decide based primarily on logic, and when they do so, they consider a decision to be made. They tend to see the world in black and white and dislike fuzziness.

  Feeling

  Feelers decide based primarily through social considerations, listening to their heart and considering the feelings of others

  I get the feeling (is this a pun ?) that since leaving the Wt. that many believe that logic must rule.. never again let your heart sway you.

  But is your life fulfilling and complete, moving without the drive and desire from the heart ?

  I guess I am a compassionate , feeling person so I may be bias..but I honestly seek your opinions about this.

  Is there some sort of balance that you try to reach or does straight logic rule the day ?

  Caliber
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  ** If God is love, you cannot fear him **

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  you will find a host of books and articles that discuss the polar opposites of love and fear.

  the bible shows two opposing gods.

  personally, i believe god is love and the angry god of fear is an imposter.

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  stonewall,

  He coulda quoted scripture of fear God and give him glory, but he instead concentrated on the single most important aspect of our relationship with God and others and that is the love

  I just love your response and observation. .. thank you so much.. it's very uplifting to me and I'm sure many others !

  Caliber
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  It's my birthday today!!!!!

  by LunaFing in

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  today i turn 25!

  my friends are throwing me a party.

  this is the first time that anyone has thrown me a party.

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  caliber

  Lunafing,

  Happy 1st Birthday to you ! ....

  Caliber
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  Study shows more violence in religious societes

  by dawg in

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  since no one bothered to read in my last thread how secular societies have lower rates of violence and teenage pregnancy than societies where many people profess belief in god.

  i figured i'd give those among us who are religious the benefit of the doubt that the post was lost in the haze of the argument.

  so, i thought i'd post it again here.

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  caliber

  If you keep sincerely asking for what's best, God will give you a very good chance to achieve it - even if you don't believe in God!
  - Bill Blackman

  Caliber