wayne,
how can you say that a pedophile is not a child molester? how can you approve of the accused not being brought up on charges if he goes to the elders and confess? as a survivor of molestation i am deeply offended. i remember when i finally made it known to my mother about what was happening to me. it was humiliating. she made me leave the house to live on the street. i was branded by my family as a habitual liar all because this person was so respected by everyone in the community. he worked with children in grammar school. he was head of the p.t.a. he was at every function. he took care of his family to the utmost. all in all does make him a good person? he even broke down to me and apologized in his own perverted way on my wedding day. he claimed that his only crime was loving me too much. WHAT!!!!!! please.
my friend's abuser was a ministerial servant in the kingdom hall and he still is. the elders chose to believe that he was not lying just because he was and still is so well respected. DIGUSTING!!!!!!!
abuse takes place everywhere. it doesn't matter if the hand of god is supposed to guard an organization, but i do know that molesters can be men or women in the world or even in the kingdom hall. therefore, you should not blind yourself. the cases of it being lower amongst j.w.'s, yeah right. tell me something else.
wake up and smell the coffee. fast!!!
freddi
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I cryed today...
by silentlambs ini recieved this note from a young person i know personally.
it brought tears to my eyes for someone so young to see things so clearly.
why can't six million others see this simple reality and the need for change?.
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Door To Door? Not At Heathrow!
by Englishman inall this talk about whether door to door work is fruitful or not has really got me thinking.. so i was wondering, (a) how many jw's or ex's here were actually converted on the door, and (b) how many jw's or ex's here ever obtained a convert on the door?.
i made 2 converts whilst a jw, but 1 was the son of an interested person, the other was a wayward son of a weak sister so i get a zero.. my dad worked at london heathrow as an air traffic controller, he got 6 other controllers to join up, so if you're arriving in the uk, don't fly apostasy airways!
for all his frequent bouts of vac pioneering, i don't think that he ever pulled a live one off the doors, so he gets a zero too.. my mum was quite a puller in her time but they were all friends of friends who came to sit in on bible studies etc, so, sorry mater, you get a zero also.. as a matter of fact, i'm wondering if the door to door work isn't completely pointless!.
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hey there;
when i was a teenager and very zealous in the truth, i managed to get my best friend,who was jewish, to believe in Jesus on her deathbed. i didn't talk about Jehovah at all just about the love that Jesus would have for her if she would only believe in Him and believe in the hope that she would be resurrected. before she died, she finally realized that Jesus is truely the Messiah. i prayed with her in the name of Jesus and then she peacefully passed away. ask anyone in the kingdom hall if they thought that she would be saved and they would say no. ask me and i will tell you what i was taught before i started going to the kingdom hall. all one has to do is confess in their hearts that they give their heart to Him and that is all you need. will she be shown mercy and will Jehovah remember her name? i really think that He will. who are we to judge.
R.I.P. Rose - shalom
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To StiLLinTruth
by LoneWolf inthis is only the second post that i've made on this board, so i hope that by posting this a second time, that i'm not violating some rule that i'm unaware of.
if i am, then i apologize to all.. however, this answer to stillintruth is on the fourth page of his last post, and i want to make sure he and as many others as possible can see it.. you will note that i sign my real name to the bottom of this.
that is meant as an open challenge to any and/or all to do something about it.
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stillintruth,
i am starting to think that you are not a jw at all. you just want a place to start people chatting because you have nothing better to do. how can you find so much time if you are so dedicated? how do you read anything other that what you are told and lived to tell elders about it. you would have benn dfd way before now. i know the org myself and i know that they have their faults but keeping someone in the truth so that he can act like an overseer of the internet is too far fetched. it seems to me like you want to have us respond to you because you don't have a life. -
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BIBLE STUDENTS, ..WTS and FINANCE
by MacHislopp ini have something that puzzles me, i'll try to explain:.
first part: let's go back in time: 1879, 1880, 1880:.
*** yb75 38 united states of america part one.
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hoo hum:
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Hang-ups about sex
by jelly ini have not really thought this out yet but i was thinking after reading another post.
what exactly did jesus say about sex?.
the only things i can remember about jesus was that he revealed his messiahship to a woment that had multiple husbans (lovers), for married men to not lust after other women, and in his linage was a former prostitute.. .
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kent:
i have to disagree with that line of thought. mind you i love sex like any other red-blooded woman but the Jesus thing being laid?
please!
we do have freedom of speech.
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Goodbye and i want to say thanks
by nogs inthis is my farewell message.
i just want to say thanks to the number of people who i have spoken to and share stories with, i thought i was the only one who left for the reasons i did but i have met many and they have strenghened me in my life course now, basically i had never looked up witnesses before and was thinking about returning to the borg when i found this site, you all made me see that it would be like going backwards.
i feel strong now and will be not returning to this site, mainly as i want to let the past stay in the past, wts is the past and while i keep re-hashing it it will always affect my life.. thanks all.
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nogs:
good luck. :):):):):):)Hi All!!!
I am an inactive JW. The last time that I have been to a Kingdom Hall is about 11 yrs ago but I still try to keep up with what is going on with the society. I am happy to have found this site. Once again, "Hello to all." -
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What did you do?
by StiLLinTruth into all those who have in some way left the organization (be it disfellowshipping, disassociating, dis-whatever):.
come now, i know the amount of people who "realized that wt doctrine was in serious error" and politely handed in their letter of resignation has to be very small.
the level of bitterness and hostility towards the closest-to-what's-biblical organization has to develop some other way.. what did you do?
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stillintruth,
blah blah to you as well. having a boring day? you must be. such a good brother as yourself would not even have the time since every moment of your life must be consumed by only what the org deems is proper.
how do you dare to assume that i no longer believe in Jehovah or the bible. are you my judge? i have never felt closer to Jehovah than now i am free to love him without the guilt of not putting in enough time in svc or not wanting to go to a meeting just because i didn't feel like it. only my God knows who i am and how i feel in my heart.
judge not my man or you will be in for a sad awakening.
oh yeah, i forgot to tell ya what my "then" fiance, who was in good standing and a pioneer, gave me as a present after i got baptized.
he took me home, made passionate love to me and told me not to tell.
WOW, such good standing and ain't that the truth. i still love Jehovah too. how amazing!!!!!Hi All!!!
I am an inactive JW. The last time that I have been to a Kingdom Hall is about 11 yrs ago but I still try to keep up with what is going on with the society. I am happy to have found this site. Once again, "Hello to all." -
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I cryed today...
by silentlambs ini recieved this note from a young person i know personally.
it brought tears to my eyes for someone so young to see things so clearly.
why can't six million others see this simple reality and the need for change?.
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freddi
hi,
as a child i was also molested by a close blood relative so i can relate to you. the org doesn't really care about us. i have since left the org. i still have a friend in the "truth" who has told the elders about how her father and brother molested her and the fuckin' brothers didn't do a thing but ask him if it was true. as soon as this molester told them no, they just ended it there. what a damn disgrace!!! and he is a brother in such good standing. there are two different set of rules in the org. maybe three or four. who the hell knows. all i know is that when it comes to something like this it is swept under the rug. and that is the damn truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
take care and stay free.
peaceHi All!!!
I am an inactive JW. The last time that I have been to a Kingdom Hall is about 11 yrs ago but I still try to keep up with what is going on with the society. I am happy to have found this site. Once again, "Hello to all." -
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What did you do?
by StiLLinTruth into all those who have in some way left the organization (be it disfellowshipping, disassociating, dis-whatever):.
come now, i know the amount of people who "realized that wt doctrine was in serious error" and politely handed in their letter of resignation has to be very small.
the level of bitterness and hostility towards the closest-to-what's-biblical organization has to develop some other way.. what did you do?
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stillintruth,
i didn't leave the org because of doctrinal beliefs. i left because i wanted to life my own life without anyone telling me what to do, what to watch, what magazine not to read what movie not to go to, what festivies that i could not attend or what objects not to wear as jewelry. i couldn't stand that at all. i wanted my freedom. as an adult i said to myself, "the hell with this. i complained to my father that i was no longer a kid and i am giving my fought after freedom to an org. how perverted."
stay free.
peaceHi All!!!
I am an inactive JW. The last time that I have been to a Kingdom Hall is about 11 yrs ago but I still try to keep up with what is going on with the society. I am happy to have found this site. Once again, "Hello to all." -
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Dress, Grooming, freedom...
by Esmeralda ini was just sitting here thinking about the restorative yoga poses that i'll be doing later to .
help with my stiff muscles, and realized what a joy it is that i have the freedom to do them now.. if i was still a jw, i wouldn't.. i'm not an extreme person.
but i do enjoy the immense freedom that i have now when it comes.
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freddi
hi essy;
i am glad to see that you have taken back your own freedom. your cong. must have been very narrow minded and old fashioned because i never heard of leather jackets being off limits. here in n.y. it is never even a question. i guess it just depends on where your cong. is located in the country and that is wrong. i have noticed when i was attending the k.h. that you can basically do what you want depending on what hall you went to. amazing isn't it? i was always taught that every jw in every k.h. is on tract with every other hall . there is not supposed to be any difference due to local. here again is man dictating what must go on in his own area. certainly not what jehovah intended. they do preach that we are suupposed to be of one mind and in unison. huh! glad to hear of your freedom and continue on with your yoga. enjoy the feeling of complete peace of mind in meditation.
peace,
jackieHi All!!!
I am an inactive JW. The last time that I have been to a Kingdom Hall is about 11 yrs ago but I still try to keep up with what is going on with the society. I am happy to have found this site. Once again, "Hello to all."