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  I am considering suicide...

  by Nebeska Nada in

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  under the wheels of a train.... .

  i feel really bad.... i don't want to be in the cult anymore.... .

  i was thinking about that whole meeting today.... .

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  shopaholic

  nebeska,

  Finding out my life was been one big lie was completely devastating. I woke one morning and realized that my life had been wasted on this garbage. I cried for days. Once I pulled it together enough to drive into work it was crazy. Nothing seemed real. I begin to wonder what was the point of life at all and on several occassions considered just ending it all.

  Then a thought popped into my head, "Why should I die because some people that I don't even know lied to someone that lied to someone else that eventually lied to my mother who passed the lie on to me?"

  Seek out a therapist. If you're not comfortable with that, talk to someone, anyone. I know when I called Flipper, he probably thought I was crazy or mentally unstable but having him actually listen to my story did wonders for me. If you are not able to talk to anyone, write it out. Grab a pen and paper and just write everything you feel completely unfiltered. Give yourself a day or two and then go back and read it. You'll see that you are angry that you've been told a lie and not wanting to kill yourself over a lie from people that you don't even know.

  There's a lot of living to do, don't let them rob you of it.
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  HEY, EVERYBODY!!!

  by snowbird in

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  how about dropping our friend and comrade from the land of the southern slavs some kind and encouraging words.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/212763/1/i-am-considering-suicide.

  syl .

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  Very sweet of you Syl...thanks for the reminder!
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  Maximum Damage to the WT.

  by Essan in

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  2. tech-support

  i have to hand it to the society.

  they understand the power of organization.

  they demonstrate that no matter how ridiculous your message and how much the facts don't support your position you can still accomplish a lot if you are organized.

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  Stage two: Start a class action lawsuit against the current Governing Body.

  Now that's an interesting idea. If executed correctly, this would even attrack active JWs that feel as if they have been deprived of what they could have done\had\been if not for the WT org.
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  Terrible Analogy at a Convention

  by ApostateDance in

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  2. friends

  i'd love to know what you guys think of this.

  brother jackson (from the governing body) had this "neat" analogy at the very end of the convention.

  he said; "what if you were watching a football game on tv, and it was the trojans against the fighting irish, and it's been a good game.

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  JW's love this type of stuff. It will keep them hyped for a few weeks. PalmTree67...I agree.
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  Maximum Damage to the WT.

  by Essan in

  1. forum
  2. tech-support

  i have to hand it to the society.

  they understand the power of organization.

  they demonstrate that no matter how ridiculous your message and how much the facts don't support your position you can still accomplish a lot if you are organized.

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  shopaholic

  Want to do maximum damage to the WT? Be happy (or okay) outside of the org and let it show. When you see them, greet them with a smile
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  Who has NOT read Combatting Cult Mind Control or Crisis of Conscience?

  by Mad Sweeney in

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  2. experiences

  a lot of people here have read and highly recommend ccmc by steven hassan and coc by ray franz, myself included.

  i don't know how i would have handled leaving the borg without that knowledge.. so thinking that got me to wondering, who here has not read them (or has read one but not the other), and how are you coping with exiting the borg?

  did you get counseling?

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  I've read CCMC but not COC. Plan to read COC this summer.
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  Adam and Eve were NEVER perfect.

  by gaiagirl in

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  jw's frequently say that the first human couple were "perfect" and would have lived forever until they gave up perfection by their disobedience.. however, closer reading of the genesis account shows that they were never perfect, instead, they were designed to grow old and die, just like the rest of the animals.

  jehovah has adam name all the animals, but finds that none of the animals is suitable as a companion (wonder how this was determined)?.

  jehovah clones a companion for adam, and tells them to not eat the fruit of a certain tree, or they will die "in that very day".

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  Adam and Eve were never perfect even by the JW definition. Its just that they had not yet sinned. If they were perfect, they would have chosen not to eat from the tree. The whole free moral agent explanation doesn't make sense because even as a free moral agent, if you were perfect you would have chosen not to eat from the tree...based on the JW definition of perfection.

  I've had this conversation several years ago with a JW after she took offense to something I said to a bible student. There was just no reasoning from scriptures with her
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  15-year-old DF'd child under quarantine? How young could it be?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  2. child-abuse

  i'm thinking about including the following in an online essay but wish to make sure it's fair and accurate.

  any baptized member who uses tobacco and cannot quit ( deemed unrepentant) will be disfellowshipped.

  be aware that there is no stated minimum age limit and i've heard of children as young as 11 who've been baptized.

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  I knew a kid that was baptized at 8, couple years later went to pioneer school* and then disfellowshipped at 12. She was not an only child. Lots of extended family in the org. She was shunned and never came back (no incentive at that age). Weird and sad...

  *I believe now there is a new rule that you have to be at least 16 to attend pioneer school.
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  No Rapture But JW's Shown 2 B The True Idiots

  by Pig in

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  2. friends

  loved this article in australia.

  five other end-of-world predictions: .

  1. followers of william miller believed the world would end on october 22, 1844.. 2.the jehovah's witness religion has predicted the end of the world in 1914, 1915, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975 and 1994.. 3. charles wesley, founder of the methodist church, predicted the world would end in 1794.. 4. famous forecaster nostradamus predicted doomsday would happen in july 1999.. 5. english mystic joanna southcott predicted the world would end on october 19, 1814, when she gave birth to the messiah.. .

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  A lof JWs expected something big to happen in 1994. Then a 1995 article cautioned against "calculating" when the end will come followed by an adjustment in the interpretation of a generation.

  But there was also another a date, I think it was in 2006 or 2007. It was only announced to Elders at KM schools that the following year we would be in the new world. Supposedly they were not tell anyone but many told their wives and I clearly remember many wives (including some of my relatives) wondering how the slave knew the new world would come the following year if no one knows the day, hour, blah, blah, blah.

  Any of you elders remember a letter being read at your KM school to that effect?
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  Are You Going To the Memorial?

  by headisspinning in

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  2. friends

  i can't see myself not attending.

  i would feel horrible not to go.

  i don't know where i'm going to land and if i had to look back and think i didn't go... well, i would feel awful..

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  shopaholic

  What Scully said...let me refresh your memory:

  Oh hell no.