Thank you Nate and SandraC,
I feel among friends and will think about what you said.
Ophelia
WeAreDying-Ophelia
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We Are Dying!
by WeAreDying-Ophelia inthis is my first post and might be my only post, not sure.
i've chosen to "come out" for a moment just to talk about the 30 minute change in the public talk on sundays.
my father and brother are both elders, this change was a blow to them they enjoy giving encouraging public talks to the friends.
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Aren't Jehovah's Witnesses just living in a ''Comfort Zone''?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmy immediate family,aunts,uncles,and cousins have been members for over 25 years.
they attend every meeting,put in their 10 hours of monthly sevice,attend assemblies out of state every year,give talks at the ministry school,avoid "worldly friends'',and do everything the wts requires of them.
they really can't see that the wts has lied to them and will continue until someone steps back and opens their eyes.. what needs to happen in order for someone to get out of the ''comfort zone''?
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Outnfree,
Yes, there is pressure to excel beyond our limits at times. You are right about this. I wish it was different but there is nothing I can do about it. There is a sister in our hall who wants dearly to pioneer but she cannot find the way, I'll try to relay to her your experience and feelings as best as I can.
Ophelia
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Aren't Jehovah's Witnesses just living in a ''Comfort Zone''?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmy immediate family,aunts,uncles,and cousins have been members for over 25 years.
they attend every meeting,put in their 10 hours of monthly sevice,attend assemblies out of state every year,give talks at the ministry school,avoid "worldly friends'',and do everything the wts requires of them.
they really can't see that the wts has lied to them and will continue until someone steps back and opens their eyes.. what needs to happen in order for someone to get out of the ''comfort zone''?
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WeAreDying-Ophelia
I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses, I don't think we are living in a comfort zone. I don't think it's easy to try and apply the fruitages of the spirit in our lives. I know for me it is a battle every day to be patient and to respect my father when we disagree, I fail in that a lot.
When he was young my father pioneered in a territory where at least 2 brothers worked together and no sisters were allowed because it was so dangerous, this also is not keeping to a comfort zone. He conducted several Bible studies with men who were drug or alcohol dependent and who did not care for their families but who came to realize hope and that they were not without love and friendship. They became better fathers and husbands. I had a study with a young girl who was on drugs and now she is free of drugs and getting married soon.
Jehovah's Witnesses do not live in comfort zones because if we did we would not be going door to door in territories many people would prefer to not even drive through.
Ophelia
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We Are Dying!
by WeAreDying-Ophelia inthis is my first post and might be my only post, not sure.
i've chosen to "come out" for a moment just to talk about the 30 minute change in the public talk on sundays.
my father and brother are both elders, this change was a blow to them they enjoy giving encouraging public talks to the friends.
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WeAreDying-Ophelia
Hello again,
My brother has decided to get off the pioneer list. Exactly when he's not sure but within the next 6 months or so. This feels so strange. I don't like it.
So many here were so very kind to me I just wanted to have someone I could share this with. He started pioneering in his teens now he's getting off because the territory is so overworked and he feels it does no good to continue beating householders to death.
The problem is I will not have his support in the field service as much as I'm used to. I know it's selfish of me but I've grown used to his being at the meeting for service and working with him in the territories. He is right though we know almost every house and householder in our territory and they seem to know us.
There is a feeling of change in my family like the changes in the Society we are changing also. My father feels balance requires that we keep active while at the same time using common sense. I don't know, what is common sense in this situation? I ask myself, should I follow my brother? or keep pioneering? Don't know what to do.
O
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We Are Dying!
by WeAreDying-Ophelia inthis is my first post and might be my only post, not sure.
i've chosen to "come out" for a moment just to talk about the 30 minute change in the public talk on sundays.
my father and brother are both elders, this change was a blow to them they enjoy giving encouraging public talks to the friends.
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WeAreDying-Ophelia
There's an older sister in our hall who is like a grandmother to me, she's in her eighties. I trust her and confide in her all the time. I told her I was thinking of coming here and she told me to go ahead and try it. She said I might be surprised. She was right. I held my breath for a couple hours now just waiting to see what would happen all that did happen though was that I received a welcome and some fellow feeling. Thank you.
She did say though that the best thing was to taste and leave. I wish the world could be what we all wish it could be. I wish we could all be good friends. I wish there was no wars and everyone had enough food and a good home to live in. I wish many things!
I wish the Society would give us more food and spiritual clothing to cover ourselves. I wish I were a man and maybe then I could make changes for the better.
Well, good night everybody. One last wish! Wish I could meet some of you! My "grandmother" would say though, "enough wishin' girl time to get some sleep."
May Jehovah's blessing be upon everyone here.
Surprised and comforted,
Ophelia
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We Are Dying!
by WeAreDying-Ophelia inthis is my first post and might be my only post, not sure.
i've chosen to "come out" for a moment just to talk about the 30 minute change in the public talk on sundays.
my father and brother are both elders, this change was a blow to them they enjoy giving encouraging public talks to the friends.
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Changeling,
My brother has advised me that I say I am under 40 and over 18. More than that he feels is unnessary and dangerous, my father's position is at stake.
May I ask, why is that important?
O
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We Are Dying!
by WeAreDying-Ophelia inthis is my first post and might be my only post, not sure.
i've chosen to "come out" for a moment just to talk about the 30 minute change in the public talk on sundays.
my father and brother are both elders, this change was a blow to them they enjoy giving encouraging public talks to the friends.
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WeAreDying-Ophelia
I have read each reply, thank you all for your interest and kindness.
Ophelia
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We Are Dying!
by WeAreDying-Ophelia inthis is my first post and might be my only post, not sure.
i've chosen to "come out" for a moment just to talk about the 30 minute change in the public talk on sundays.
my father and brother are both elders, this change was a blow to them they enjoy giving encouraging public talks to the friends.
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WeAreDying-Ophelia
Under_believer,
You understand! Thank you!
It's hard to see a bright young brother who is eager to do his best stand on the platform and read, just read, his #2 talk assignment in the school. No introduction, no conclusion. Hard to understand what the Society is thinking.
The Theocratic Ministry School trains young speakers. The #2 talk is the introductory talk for young brothers, they should progress to the more difficult talks after that and then to the public talks (which will soon be just outline discussions with no real interaction between speaker and audience) and later if he is proficient to circuit talks. But the Society is for some reason hampering that process. Don't understand this!
My father says at times he feels like an organ grinder.
O
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We Are Dying!
by WeAreDying-Ophelia inthis is my first post and might be my only post, not sure.
i've chosen to "come out" for a moment just to talk about the 30 minute change in the public talk on sundays.
my father and brother are both elders, this change was a blow to them they enjoy giving encouraging public talks to the friends.
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WeAreDying-Ophelia
Rosalee,
15 minutes is a big deal to a speaker. It's the difference between individualizing a talk to the audience or just doing the outline. This recent change is the last in a long string of changes that are happening it's not just one thing but a whole series of changes that are not always understood on the congregational level.
I came here because a relative who used be one of Jehovah's Witnesses told me that active brothers and sisters were among the members here, I hoped to ask them what they thought. I realize this is not a site friendly to Jehovah's Witnesses but I had hoped some here might know what we did not. As for my father he has not a clue as to why this all is happening other than what was said at the meeting which is something he does not fully believe.
Thank you to all who chose to respond.
O.
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We Are Dying!
by WeAreDying-Ophelia inthis is my first post and might be my only post, not sure.
i've chosen to "come out" for a moment just to talk about the 30 minute change in the public talk on sundays.
my father and brother are both elders, this change was a blow to them they enjoy giving encouraging public talks to the friends.
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WeAreDying-Ophelia
Hello,
This is my first post and might be my only post, not sure. I've chosen to "come out" for a moment just to talk about the 30 minute change in the public talk on Sundays.
My father and brother are both elders, this change was a blow to them they enjoy giving encouraging public talks to the friends. 30 minutes is too short and more like a church sermon, I think.
I love my faith, I love my friends so please don't think I'm out or anything, I just don't understand all these changes.
Anyone here still in and wondering like I am? If so, have you heard anymore about this from the elders in your hall? Several of us are feeling that the Society is out of control. What that means we don't really know except that all we can do is wait and hang on to one another.
My congregation is dying and we are not the only ones.
O.
(my real name is not ophelia)