Posts by freeman

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MILLIONS PROTESTING AGAINST WAR

by Realist in

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millions have protested against bush and his blood for oil war all across europe and the world!.

there is still hope for peace!

freeman

IMHO protesting the war is a wonderful lesson in civics and should be encouraged. Im sure there are a number of honest hearted people protesting this war over legitimate concerns, however in among the many sincere people are a number of groups with quite different agendas then yours.

There are a number of groups activity participating who do not hold the interests or the welfare of our people in high regard. Do you know this? Do you know who they are?

Do a little research and you will be surprised just who is funding these professional protestors. Add to this mix those that are using this platform as just something to thwart the current administrations efforts at any cost, or in other words, the only reason is that they are looking for political gain and not necessarily holding the peoples interests first. There truly are some wolves among the sheep.

Unfortunately most people dont know this and they never will. But as I said, protesting the actions of your government, in this case an impending war is a good lesson in civics as long as you realize there are many others with different agendas then yours in the crowd.

Freeman

Edited by - freeman on 15 February 2003 11:42:38

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The internet, really a good place for information?

by sleepy in

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is the internet really a good place to find information?a lot of people have learnt the truth about jehovahs witnesses through the internet, via web sites that proclaim to expose the truth about them.. but is the internet a safe place to gather information on important subjects?grated its very easy to find what you are looking for most of the time,but just how trust worthy is the information found within?often when i look at sites that discuss subject i have a good knowledge of there is a lot of nonsense talked by people who havent got a clue but just want to have a say.it is not always easy for the "novice" to determine who is the "expert" and who is not.. the internet suffers from this problem more than say books, because it is so easy for just anyone to write what they want, whereas to make a book you have to go through a lot of effort and it will have been read and checked by other people.. i tend to treat the internet like i treat people.i only listen if people can give a good explaination as to what they are saying or believe, if none is provided i will ignore the information whethr it is correct or not as there is no basis for me to trust it.. so in order to give good information we must always try to explain why we belive something to be the case.. dont just trust what you read (most people dont anyway)always look for the reasons why, and think of counter arguments , only then except what is writen and still be a little sceptical.

freeman

I have been on the net since I think around 1974-75 intermittently and more steadily since about Im guessing 1984. I have found the net to be the greatest library and repository of both relevant and arcane information on the planet. In the early days we had none of the tools available today. Basically all you could do then is send e-mail, copy files; use an early form of chat. There was no such thing as an ISP, you got in through a military connection know as a TAC (dialup) or from the high energy physics lab at a university, or through a defense contractor. Oh yes and if you were connected at 300 baud you were flying, no Im not kidding 300 baud! I still have an old terminal with a built in 300 baud acoustic modem. You dial the number and then place the phone headset in the suction cup modem and away you go.

I know most of you have no idea what I am talking about.

The Internet has changed everything; it did in part help liberate me from the Borg. And now at age 47 it is still changing my life. Now it is allowing me to be a full time student again without taking any time off from work. Where else can one earn college credit and degrees without leaving ones home? Just be careful to research the school and make sure they are regionally accredit or otherwise accredited by an agency recognized by the Department of Education. There are tons of diploma mills out there, only too willing to take your money! If you get involved with such a school, you will pay a lot of money and receive a diploma that is not worth the paper it is printed on.

As far as the worth of the information on the net, that is subjective. I suggest one do their own independent verification. Make note of everything but trust nothing important until it is verified. As far as information about JWs on the net, be forewarned there are some overtly dishonest sites telling lies about the witnesses on the net. Two site that I have encountered that are shamelessly dishonest on the subject of JWs are: www.watchtower.org and www.jw-media.org . Use discretion when visit these sites.

Freeman

Edited by - freeman on 15 February 2003 9:24:53

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Wonderful news about Iraq..NO NEED FOR WAR!

by freeman in

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well it looks like we will be sending our troops home, as we dont have to worry about iraq retaining, creating, or using weapons of mass destruction anymore (wmd).

the iraqi dictator has sent a note to the chief u. n. weapons inspector informing him that he (has just now enacted legislation making wmd's illegal.

this wonderful news was announced by a gleeful hans blix just today at a televised meeting at the u.n.

freeman

The amazing thing in all of this is that Blix said this with all seriousness and plans to study the matter further. OMG! Is Blix on medication? Is he that clueless?

He must be, because he also spoke quite favorably about how much closer Iraq is to allowing unfettered access now. He cited how each U.N. inspector now has only 2 Iraqi minders following them all around. This is down from five per inspector a few weeks ago.

Unbelievable!

Freeman

Edited by - freeman on 14 February 2003 15:35:10

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Wonderful news about Iraq..NO NEED FOR WAR!

by freeman in

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friends

well it looks like we will be sending our troops home, as we dont have to worry about iraq retaining, creating, or using weapons of mass destruction anymore (wmd).

the iraqi dictator has sent a note to the chief u. n. weapons inspector informing him that he (has just now enacted legislation making wmd's illegal.

this wonderful news was announced by a gleeful hans blix just today at a televised meeting at the u.n.

freeman

Well it looks like we will be sending our troops home, as we dont have to worry about Iraq retaining, creating, or using weapons of mass destruction anymore (WMD). The Iraqi dictator has sent a note to the chief U. N. weapons inspector informing him that he (has just now enacted legislation making WMD's illegal.

This wonderful news was announced by a gleeful Hans Blix just today at a televised meeting at the U.N.

Now if we could only get a note from Osama Bin ladens mom promising that there will be no more terrorist attacks, then we could come down from hi-alert and maybe even dismantle the department of homeland security since it would not be needed anymore.

Somebody slap me

Freeman

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I am shocked, disgusted and I feel violated

by berylblue in

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i have spent the last few days reading all the information about the wts on the internet.

i am shocked.

appalled.

freeman

Greetings B erylblue, and welcome to this humble abode!

Here you will find kinship and solace as most of us here have been down the same road you find yourself on now.

Healing happens in stages, it starts first with shock and disbelief, anger and sorrow but trust me it does get better as the days go on. When you get to the stage some of us are at, you may wish to move on or stay here in this community. That is entirely up to you.

Some of us do what we can to educate the public about the Watchtower and its lies, you can do that just by telling your story and experiences. Some of us here have chosen to have a very active roll in exposing the Dark Tower for what it is. In my own case I like to think of it as a hobby, payback, and a charity work for the public good. No matter what you choose to do or not do, just remember you are among friends.

Good luck to you Berylblue

Freeman

Edited by - freeman on 14 February 2003 10:39:4

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How to Give a Cat a Pill*

by cruzanheart in

*with apologies to anyone who may have already posted this, and dedicated to angharad who made me laugh with her how to give a cat a bath thread.

position right forefinger and thumb on either side of cat's mouth and gently apply pressure to cheeks while holding pill in right hand.

as cat opens mouth pop pill into mouth.

freeman

This thread illustrates the point that some people are cat people, and some people are dog people; thats just the way it is.

I believe the key to enjoying cats and getting the most out of them is knowing just how to cook them. I happen to love cats and I think most dog owners would too if you gave them half a chance.

Just remember to cook slowly and use plenty of barbeque sauce.

Enjoy your cat

Freeman

Edited by - freeman on 14 February 2003 10:2:24

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German tv about childabuse, 16th February

by Nordic in

ende des schweigen.

http://www.wdr.de/epg/sqlepg/f0216t.html

nordic.

freeman

Pure worship is under attack!

Once again we will be told "Satan is attacking Gods organization". First it was Dateline, then Panorama, next the Australians, and then the Canadians and now the Germans.

Burn Tower Burn!!!!

Freeman

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Downloading TV shows??

by home_and_dry in

i was just wondering how to go about downloading a tv show from the internet.

it's only because the show i want to watch is a season behind the u.s. and i can't wait for u.k.tv to catch up.. i have tried kazaa which does have the shows but i can never get a download, its all just remotely queing.

and they don't have much of a choice in downloads either, so i just give up!.

freeman

Homeand-dry, I dont think you are doing anything wrong. When it says remotely queued it generally means that the other party has received your request and that the download will commence when enough resources are free (on his end). He probably has too many files downloading at once to other users. Your download will start when the download count goes below his max set number. At least that is how I think it works.

I too am looking for a particular program, The Fifth Estate a Canadian show. I am trying to get a copy of the episode dealing with the Child Molestation problem among JWs called Spiritual Shepards. Kazaa can be a pain in the ass, I tried to find that program when a few posters had it up and all I got back when I searched was a bunch of audio files called the Fifth Estate. I should just write my own program with an improved search but Im just to lazy.

Dont know who may have your files archived, but dont feel bad about not being particularly net savvy, Ive been on the net since around 1974-75 long before there was a www anything ( it was called Arpanet / Milnet back then) and its still sometimes confusing to me even now. Back then there was only a few types of people on the net: universities (high energy physics labs aka bomb researchers), some military type people, defense contractors, and a handful of early hackers. Ill give you a hint of what group I fell into. Hint, I was not in the military, and at the time I was not yet in college J .

As far as FTP goes, this is simply a file copy program, just another basic way to move files across the net from one computer to another. You could simply type ftp into a search engine and you will likely find information on how to use this program. You could also open up a dos window on your PC and type FTP and then when you get the FTP> prompt type ?. This should show you some of the more common commands available.

Hope that helps a little.

Freeman

Edited by - freeman on 12 February 2003 7:58:23

Fifth Estate Video file needed

by freeman in

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would anyone happen to have or know of a place i can get a near vhs quality copy of the fifth estate show that i could download?

i am not referring to the streaming video files on the net and this board, but a higher bit-rate copy.

i have a cable modem and plenty of disk space and would love to give your file a nice new home.

freeman

Would anyone happen to have or know of a place I can get a near VHS quality copy of the Fifth Estate show that I could download? I am not referring to the streaming video files on the net and this board, but a higher bit-rate copy. I have a cable modem and plenty of disk space and would love to give your file a nice new home. In fact I will be converting this file to both DVDs and VHS tape for the friends in my area that don't do internet just as as I have done with Panorama, Silent Witness and others. If anyone can help in this regard, please respond to this thread or email me directly at the following address:

[email protected]

Thanks much!

Freeman

Edited by - freeman on 11 February 2003 16:37:39

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Meeting with P/O re: doctrine

by Iron Eagle in

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hi folks .

does anybody remember a while back i posted a topic concerning jesus mediatorship ?

i asked if anybody could show me quotes from the watchtower that state that jesus only acts as mediator towards the 144,000 .

freeman

Hi Iron Eagle,

Good job!

You certainly are holding his feet to the fire and that is good as long as you remember one thing. The thing you must remember is that most of these cheese and cracker men have traded in their intellectual honesty for the security of being in the Tower Club. Last year I forbade my younger son, now almost 14, from attending anymore meetings. I objected to the fact that he was instructed to shun two of his friends that were dis-fellowshipped and when I asked him why he had to do this, the only reason he could come up with is because the society says I have too. Not good enough! I also had problems with the blood issue since they are asking my child to put his life at risk for reasons that can not be logically or scripturally defended.

Like you, I too overwhelmed him, he didnt have a chance and was forced to agree with me on several points. It was pitiful because this was a very smart guy, quite articulate and college educated too, (a rarity in the JW world).

But then in the end, after he had been trounced on each and every point, one of the gears in his noggin turned. Something went click and his programming kicked in. He then asked if my son could still attend the meetings and he would just alert me as to when the subject of blood or shunning would be discussed at the meeting and then my son could just stay home on those particular nights.

I just shook my head.

I just hope you are not setting yourself up for a let down. If you think you can turn one of these type of people around using logic, reason, and even their own words, it just doesnt work, the programming is just too powerful.

Freeman

Edited by - freeman on 9 February 2003 8:20:27