No atheist believes any human has a claim on "Everlasting Life". The fact that babies are born innocent certainly does NOT entitle them - any more than any other life-form on the planet - to everlasting life.............................................You have not addressed my point above: people who believe, as you seem to, that God has a right to behave in a way which seems unfair or unjust to humans, flew planes into buildings on Sept 11, 2001..........................................................................................Whether that God be Allah, or Jehovah, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, people who hold this view are dangerous and we cannot merely ignore their insane insistence on the notion that humans cannot question God.
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Why Adam and Eve were unfairly judged by God
by BreakingAway inthe argument has been made on many occasions that death and suffering are a result of adam's sin.in fact, the bible is so clear on this "fact" that it is one of the few things on which nearly every christian denomination will agree.. "therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned romans 5:12. however, i would like to present the case that god had, in fact, not told adam this very thing, and consequently, adam was unaware of what really would take place upon eating the fruit.notice this verse:.
"but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.
" gen.2:17. i highlighted the word "you" because this is absolutely critical.why ?
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Why Adam and Eve were unfairly judged by God
by BreakingAway inthe argument has been made on many occasions that death and suffering are a result of adam's sin.in fact, the bible is so clear on this "fact" that it is one of the few things on which nearly every christian denomination will agree.. "therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned romans 5:12. however, i would like to present the case that god had, in fact, not told adam this very thing, and consequently, adam was unaware of what really would take place upon eating the fruit.notice this verse:.
"but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.
" gen.2:17. i highlighted the word "you" because this is absolutely critical.why ?
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This kind of religious thinking is not just amusing, not simply something we can "agree to disagree" about. It is dangerous. "We mere humans can't know the mind of God, whatever He says is fair by definition, because He's God." Therefore: if one tribe invades and slaughters another to obtain land God has given them, it's fair because God says so. If God wants to change or break rules He Himself made, it's OK because He's God and we shouldn't question this. If slaughtering innocents seems monsterous to us, it's because we can't know as much as God. By this same reasoning, modern Jihadists flew planes into buildings....because their God was not to be questioned as to what was fair. This kind of blind-faith reasoning should not be tolerated in modern society, because it leads to unspeakable injustice and cruelty in the name of an All Powerful and Not-To-Be-Questioned force. PS: does this site not allow formatting with Firefox?
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Why Adam and Eve were unfairly judged by God
by BreakingAway inthe argument has been made on many occasions that death and suffering are a result of adam's sin.in fact, the bible is so clear on this "fact" that it is one of the few things on which nearly every christian denomination will agree.. "therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned romans 5:12. however, i would like to present the case that god had, in fact, not told adam this very thing, and consequently, adam was unaware of what really would take place upon eating the fruit.notice this verse:.
"but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.
" gen.2:17. i highlighted the word "you" because this is absolutely critical.why ?
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EphemeralPleasures
"YOU may disagree with God all you want--but surely you are not suggesting that any of us humans know better than God?" I think that's a perfectly reasonable suggestion. Most humans do, indeed, know "better" than God. Reading the Bible today, modern thinking individuals surely know more about the Universe and its movements than did the God of the Bible - also about germs and microbes, agriculture, mathematics, and many other things the average primary-schooler knows more about. Mankind is also more aware than the God of the Bible about standards of morality - we no longer condone the enslavement of foreigners, rape of conquered women (and in some cases, children), genocide for purposes of land-grabbing, human sacrifice, or treating women as property. No modern society would allow a moral code of conduct based on what God advocates in the Bible. So yes, in short humans DO know better than God.