omg there are some funny posts here.....esp the gerbil droppings from wafflel...........but many are sobering too........oomps
ya john doe.............prob so..........you made me laugh bigtime!!
i have already lost nearly all my friends....maybe just a handful will even be social........but i so hate to lose my mom and dad and my jw son.....one is df......so he still shows that he loves me.....but damm........i so hate to lose the little bit of fam i have left.......is that normal?......stupid question.....i guess i know from my time here....i so hate these guys that can take them away.....oompa.
i know a bunch of you have done it.....just please help me through it...........
omg there are some funny posts here.....esp the gerbil droppings from wafflel...........but many are sobering too........oomps
ya john doe.............prob so..........you made me laugh bigtime!!
i have already lost nearly all my friends....maybe just a handful will even be social........but i so hate to lose my mom and dad and my jw son.....one is df......so he still shows that he loves me.....but damm........i so hate to lose the little bit of fam i have left.......is that normal?......stupid question.....i guess i know from my time here....i so hate these guys that can take them away.....oompa.
i know a bunch of you have done it.....just please help me through it...........
i have already lost nearly all my friends....maybe just a handful will even be social........but i so hate to lose my mom and dad and my jw son.....one is df......so he still shows that he loves me.....but damm........i so hate to lose the little bit of fam i have left.......is that normal?......stupid question.....i guess i know from my time here....i so hate these guys that can take them away.....oompa
i know a bunch of you have done it.....just please help me through it..........
of course anyone not a jw is "worldly""...i think that mentally this is the hardest part to overcome if you are born in..... you should have seen the look on my wife's face recently when i told her that i feel that things are prob about as good as it gets.....no evil wicked system of things exists........ ya..... i know times are tough here in usa as far as employment.....but damm....this ain't like the great depression or wwi or ww2!!
!.......life in the middle ages used to be 38 years......now it is 88 years!!!.......
i can walk just about any neighborhood without fear...if the "world" were as bad as they say...there would be a prisons every 1000 meters!!!
DeanOs..........it has always been that way.........sorry ........it it awful..........oompa
of course anyone not a jw is "worldly""...i think that mentally this is the hardest part to overcome if you are born in..... you should have seen the look on my wife's face recently when i told her that i feel that things are prob about as good as it gets.....no evil wicked system of things exists........ ya..... i know times are tough here in usa as far as employment.....but damm....this ain't like the great depression or wwi or ww2!!
!.......life in the middle ages used to be 38 years......now it is 88 years!!!.......
i can walk just about any neighborhood without fear...if the "world" were as bad as they say...there would be a prisons every 1000 meters!!!
of course anyone not a jw is "worldly""...i think that mentally this is the hardest part to overcome if you are born in....
you should have seen the look on my wife's face recently when i told her that i feel that things are prob about as good as it gets.....no evil wicked system of things exists.......
ya..... i know times are tough here in USA as far as employment.....but damm....this ain't like the great depression or WWI or ww2!!!.......life in the middle ages used to be 38 years......now it is 88 years!!!......
i can walk just about any neighborhood without fear...if the "world" were as bad as they say...there would be a prisons every 1000 meters!!!!.......and i told her that..........my neighbors are really nice people.........she just cant see that....cause of course they are "worldly"......and of course anyone not a jw is "worldly"........the wt is very good about making it US against THEM.........crap...........oompa
there are so many nice people out there..............
even with my jw wife.....i have told her for awhile she is prob better off without me....i was party central in jwland....nobody has had me over for two years now....i guess cause i could not shut up about some real truths about the so-called truth....now i have agreed to shut up....these guys really do have a right to their own beliefs...i am very non-judgemental and always have been......i should have shut up two years ago or so...but damm......trying to fit in with your own marriage in order to save being shunned from your blood family and a very few what is left dub friends just sucks.....starting over at midlife is such a bitch.....such a bitch..........oompa.
and ya...the fear of the unknown is really present......if all i have known is jw...i will prob not fit into real world either.
lol......ya otwo your life does NOT suck so bad....although you may want to inform your hot jw wife that the sucking is allowed now....they have finally gotten out of the marital bed i think???.........anyhoo........thanks friend.....your advice to let my wife decide is good........maybe i shlould just go ahead and be me.....and see if she can handle that as a dub married to a more quiet ragin apostate.........oomps
the conventions must be kicking off in west palm beach this weekend.
a tv station did a little piece on it.
be sure to watch the video in the upper right hand corner.. http://www.wptv.com/mostpopular/story/jehovahs-witnesses-prepare-believers-for-the-end/ho63h5z-q0akzmfqhmrwvw.cspx.
i really love that article.....but though i wish my dub fam and friends would see it for what it is....they would prob just all be glowing over it......barf.....oompa
even with my jw wife.....i have told her for awhile she is prob better off without me....i was party central in jwland....nobody has had me over for two years now....i guess cause i could not shut up about some real truths about the so-called truth....now i have agreed to shut up....these guys really do have a right to their own beliefs...i am very non-judgemental and always have been......i should have shut up two years ago or so...but damm......trying to fit in with your own marriage in order to save being shunned from your blood family and a very few what is left dub friends just sucks.....starting over at midlife is such a bitch.....such a bitch..........oompa.
and ya...the fear of the unknown is really present......if all i have known is jw...i will prob not fit into real world either.
otwo....damm...it is still tough for you?!?!?....and you have the hottie jw wife.....and you are not social.......just think how hard it is for me.....ya...it sucks....and trying to make this all work when i don't fit in anymore is a real puzzler...........starting over is a bitch.....staying where i am is a bitch and not an option......but undercover does make a great point.......he seems to know i am not the patient type......i really need to go slow....not be rash......she can always kick me out later.....i should prob see how it will go if i openly do my own thing.....but crap.....she will hate that and cry a lot.....i may just have to see if she can live with someone like me..........oompa
and thanks loubelle....you always have great advice...you are honest to the core...i know what you really think i should do.......
even with my jw wife.....i have told her for awhile she is prob better off without me....i was party central in jwland....nobody has had me over for two years now....i guess cause i could not shut up about some real truths about the so-called truth....now i have agreed to shut up....these guys really do have a right to their own beliefs...i am very non-judgemental and always have been......i should have shut up two years ago or so...but damm......trying to fit in with your own marriage in order to save being shunned from your blood family and a very few what is left dub friends just sucks.....starting over at midlife is such a bitch.....such a bitch..........oompa.
and ya...the fear of the unknown is really present......if all i have known is jw...i will prob not fit into real world either.
homer...good for you....but i am a very vocal person....so it is way to late to "consider the same"....but thanks......
lalaa....talk about not fitting in...i NEVER fit in in school starting with third grade....i saluted the flag!...what kid wants to feel like a freak....i tried to do birthdays...but parents sent me to library!!....dammit!!....i did valentines when i could and damm did i have a cute gf then.......lasted till sixth grade.......older grades were even worse......i have led a double life nearly my entire life.....now.......i do not fit in with jwhood........just can not do the double life anymore........it is taking a severe toll..........thanks guys.....just try to be real to yourself......i am trying but it is hard.......oompa
there was another thread that got a little derailed by arguments between gun-owners and non-gun-owners, but i'd like to continue the discussion of a single topic (without rantings on gun control, please):.
do you carry a firearm while in backcountry?
either 4-wheeling, backpacking, or doing ranch-related work, etc?
i never carried...but always felt better my bud had a little 22 in h.s pack...not for animal...but people....did two states of the app and it can get scary at times.......oomps
i have only been on a couple of committee's for actual apostasy, and in one the brother never showed, and in the other, the person said they don't want to be a witness.
but in having experience as an elder and a c.o., and in reading this forum, here are my suggestions.. do not say:.
"i don't believe that the faithful and discreet slave is god's channel" - why not?
holy fluck undercover......you gotta know this already....you dont show......away you go......hell ya they will df you if you do not show up......oompa