not after third grade!......had WAY too much fun in school...the only regret i have as to having a damm jw conccience was I could just never do the full nasty!!!!........damm i wish had those time back............oompa
Posts by oompa
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20Did u have a well trained conscience?
by Newborn ini think i did and that was one of the things that eventually made me leave the org.
i just couldn't take living with a bad conscience constantly.
when i left this was one of the things that disappeard first and it was as tons were lifted from my shoulders.
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wife took it pretty well i guess...it's over...
by oompa ini guess it only took three years, but they were hell in so many ways for both of us...she was not happy and lived in denial as much as possible...i was not happy and lived in a bottle as much as possible and glad that is over for me....but it was one of the saddest things i have ever experienced in my life....as was the visit to my parents before i told her....but yes...she said she kind of expected it...was thinking something was going to happen soon as she noticed i had more and more trouble saying i love you back to her when she said it on the phone at the end of goodbyes...and when i was leaving the house...i had noticed it for over a year and it was killing me..... i told her how sorry i was for changing so much again....and that she still walks on water...and is a great person and so pretty....and that she will be ok because she was happy single before me for many years and had all she needs for that again...her closeness to jehovah and her freinds in the congregation...she is very close to both and will be ok i hope...it was very surreal....very calm...very sad.
my bitterness and disdain for wt rules came through when talking to my parents and i was very open about how i feel as to their upcoming shunning of me, and how it feels to my son since he was just 17....and how the fear of losing them had kept me trying in my marriage for the past few years...dad was firm in his position of future action....mom said they will still always love me...and will still talk to me until i get dfd.....oh how this hurts.....dad said there is a name for people who only live for themselves and deny god but could not think of what it was....i told him i was not living just for myself...that i am a good person and there are values from him and the bible i hope i always have....i cry so hard as i type this and tell you just so you can know how painful this is....i told him i so loved the rule of treating others how you want to be treated and have always done that...even allowing myself to be wronged on so many occasions to keep peace....... he said that was a good rule....i agreed and said it was a big one too....and that while i could do it...treat him the way i would like to be treated...he would not be able to!.......left as i became emotional...big hug from mom, but i just barely put an arm on dad............oompa.
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lmao...i needed that...first the pain of ten years without hearing...then the punch line...my kind of humor!!!......oomps
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How Do Jehovah's Witnesses Feel About Handgun Ownership?
by Cold Steel inis there anything that keeps a jw from buying a gun for personal protection?.
has the watchtower issued any edicts on this?
just curious.. .
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they pretty much hate them...i took my .357 S&W with me when i left...had to hide it from my wife the past year...she pretty much said she would rather be raped that shoot an intruder???????..........really bothered me.........oompa
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wife took it pretty well i guess...it's over...
by oompa ini guess it only took three years, but they were hell in so many ways for both of us...she was not happy and lived in denial as much as possible...i was not happy and lived in a bottle as much as possible and glad that is over for me....but it was one of the saddest things i have ever experienced in my life....as was the visit to my parents before i told her....but yes...she said she kind of expected it...was thinking something was going to happen soon as she noticed i had more and more trouble saying i love you back to her when she said it on the phone at the end of goodbyes...and when i was leaving the house...i had noticed it for over a year and it was killing me..... i told her how sorry i was for changing so much again....and that she still walks on water...and is a great person and so pretty....and that she will be ok because she was happy single before me for many years and had all she needs for that again...her closeness to jehovah and her freinds in the congregation...she is very close to both and will be ok i hope...it was very surreal....very calm...very sad.
my bitterness and disdain for wt rules came through when talking to my parents and i was very open about how i feel as to their upcoming shunning of me, and how it feels to my son since he was just 17....and how the fear of losing them had kept me trying in my marriage for the past few years...dad was firm in his position of future action....mom said they will still always love me...and will still talk to me until i get dfd.....oh how this hurts.....dad said there is a name for people who only live for themselves and deny god but could not think of what it was....i told him i was not living just for myself...that i am a good person and there are values from him and the bible i hope i always have....i cry so hard as i type this and tell you just so you can know how painful this is....i told him i so loved the rule of treating others how you want to be treated and have always done that...even allowing myself to be wronged on so many occasions to keep peace....... he said that was a good rule....i agreed and said it was a big one too....and that while i could do it...treat him the way i would like to be treated...he would not be able to!.......left as i became emotional...big hug from mom, but i just barely put an arm on dad............oompa.
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isaacaustin...yes they will df me ASAP as i am already reproved....yet never went back to a meeting after the four i attended that opened the door for those idiots to demand i come in...had i not they would have dfd me for apostasy...and they should have and i told them to!!!...so now as soon as they even think i am lovin some poontang, the ax will fall....and also because i am married to a really nice jw with really nice jw friends...and several work for me...so it will be "TAKE THAT" for not really showing repentance...esp since two days after the five hour elder meeting i told my old best friend elder "no i will not be there for the letter being read and i will never attend another fukkin meeting in my life!...are you crazy?!?!"...so pretty much a done deal
Moshe...funny...she went with me twice to the first counselor after begging her and finding a lady who used to employ a witness and had no prejudice...then i went five times alone...she could not move at all so could not find common ground which is what the goal of counselors is...then she heard the same type info from a second counselor, and both felt we had a nearly hopless situation since neither of us was willing or perhaps able to change........and thank you so much kdwf...................oompa
and jwfacts...you could have heard a pin drop after i said that to my dad...it was spontaneous, not planned and as you can imagine i was very passionate throughout that meeting with my folks...today mom visted me and we shared a long long tight hug...i have not heard from dad....oompa
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What's the worst you ever experienced while preaching?
by Newborn ini was once threatened with a rifle.
that was scary...but hey...what didn't we suffer for the good news.
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i fell off a porch as a kid and landed in a huge prickly bush and could not get out.........oompa
i was kinda one to never stand still at the door
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Saw outlaw at the beach the other day...not bad lookin.....
by oompa ini followed the little tree icons directions and have loaded pics before but doubt this came through as when i upload it to the little tree box only a red x appears even though my picture appears in the box..........help please if this does not post and i am in explorer not chrome.
outlaw i took this from my boat...and could just see you on board!.....oompa.
yep, just like i thought...no picture!
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Outlaw...you may be the next Bubba Gump....glad you liked it, and of course thought of you...oompa
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Saw outlaw at the beach the other day...not bad lookin.....
by oompa ini followed the little tree icons directions and have loaded pics before but doubt this came through as when i upload it to the little tree box only a red x appears even though my picture appears in the box..........help please if this does not post and i am in explorer not chrome.
outlaw i took this from my boat...and could just see you on board!.....oompa.
yep, just like i thought...no picture!
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WHOO HOOO...see i saw this while heading out fishing....and duh....had to show it to my canadian buddy......oompa
not a bad pic for a blackberry eh?....man what a beautiful day it was
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Saw outlaw at the beach the other day...not bad lookin.....
by oompa ini followed the little tree icons directions and have loaded pics before but doubt this came through as when i upload it to the little tree box only a red x appears even though my picture appears in the box..........help please if this does not post and i am in explorer not chrome.
outlaw i took this from my boat...and could just see you on board!.....oompa.
yep, just like i thought...no picture!
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ok...here is link and the tree thingy accepted it and displayed the photo...and the pic is in this reply box...and i am sending it...but bet it will not appear here!...geeze
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd125/riconte77/outlaw.jpg?t=1257349769
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wife took it pretty well i guess...it's over...
by oompa ini guess it only took three years, but they were hell in so many ways for both of us...she was not happy and lived in denial as much as possible...i was not happy and lived in a bottle as much as possible and glad that is over for me....but it was one of the saddest things i have ever experienced in my life....as was the visit to my parents before i told her....but yes...she said she kind of expected it...was thinking something was going to happen soon as she noticed i had more and more trouble saying i love you back to her when she said it on the phone at the end of goodbyes...and when i was leaving the house...i had noticed it for over a year and it was killing me..... i told her how sorry i was for changing so much again....and that she still walks on water...and is a great person and so pretty....and that she will be ok because she was happy single before me for many years and had all she needs for that again...her closeness to jehovah and her freinds in the congregation...she is very close to both and will be ok i hope...it was very surreal....very calm...very sad.
my bitterness and disdain for wt rules came through when talking to my parents and i was very open about how i feel as to their upcoming shunning of me, and how it feels to my son since he was just 17....and how the fear of losing them had kept me trying in my marriage for the past few years...dad was firm in his position of future action....mom said they will still always love me...and will still talk to me until i get dfd.....oh how this hurts.....dad said there is a name for people who only live for themselves and deny god but could not think of what it was....i told him i was not living just for myself...that i am a good person and there are values from him and the bible i hope i always have....i cry so hard as i type this and tell you just so you can know how painful this is....i told him i so loved the rule of treating others how you want to be treated and have always done that...even allowing myself to be wronged on so many occasions to keep peace....... he said that was a good rule....i agreed and said it was a big one too....and that while i could do it...treat him the way i would like to be treated...he would not be able to!.......left as i became emotional...big hug from mom, but i just barely put an arm on dad............oompa.
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sacolton...if she thinks it makes me birdfood....then i am birdfood..............oompa
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wife took it pretty well i guess...it's over...
by oompa ini guess it only took three years, but they were hell in so many ways for both of us...she was not happy and lived in denial as much as possible...i was not happy and lived in a bottle as much as possible and glad that is over for me....but it was one of the saddest things i have ever experienced in my life....as was the visit to my parents before i told her....but yes...she said she kind of expected it...was thinking something was going to happen soon as she noticed i had more and more trouble saying i love you back to her when she said it on the phone at the end of goodbyes...and when i was leaving the house...i had noticed it for over a year and it was killing me..... i told her how sorry i was for changing so much again....and that she still walks on water...and is a great person and so pretty....and that she will be ok because she was happy single before me for many years and had all she needs for that again...her closeness to jehovah and her freinds in the congregation...she is very close to both and will be ok i hope...it was very surreal....very calm...very sad.
my bitterness and disdain for wt rules came through when talking to my parents and i was very open about how i feel as to their upcoming shunning of me, and how it feels to my son since he was just 17....and how the fear of losing them had kept me trying in my marriage for the past few years...dad was firm in his position of future action....mom said they will still always love me...and will still talk to me until i get dfd.....oh how this hurts.....dad said there is a name for people who only live for themselves and deny god but could not think of what it was....i told him i was not living just for myself...that i am a good person and there are values from him and the bible i hope i always have....i cry so hard as i type this and tell you just so you can know how painful this is....i told him i so loved the rule of treating others how you want to be treated and have always done that...even allowing myself to be wronged on so many occasions to keep peace....... he said that was a good rule....i agreed and said it was a big one too....and that while i could do it...treat him the way i would like to be treated...he would not be able to!.......left as i became emotional...big hug from mom, but i just barely put an arm on dad............oompa.
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"where else could i go away to" but you guys here who understand this?...i have taken great comfort and strength knowing that so many of you picked yourself up from the bowels of dispair and made it to a much better place
I do appreciate all the support and encouragment on this thread, but that is not what i was after, and thanks for understanding...this is not a pity party, just a sad reality of what has happened as a direct result of me "changing my mind" about a faith, and actually having and stating my own opinion about things important to me
yesidid...thank you for thinking about my wife...the subject line is about her as well as the first two paragraphs...and yes i was thinking about her as well as me and am consumed with simpathy for her, and yes it has been hell for her for three years too in case i did not make that clear...anyone here who does pray, please pray for my dear wife......she was miserable in this marriage and her seeing me move on mentally, socially, and spiritually, and wanting no part of it has caused her serious depression...if you could have seen her the day after i went to a halloween party...crying all day and staying in bed...except when she went to the hall and cried the entire time...you would probably understand...she could not help herself start quoting "the article i read just yesterday about he pagan origin of haloween and how displeasing to jehovah you are"....i could have snuck out of my own home AGAIN to attend a fun non-drunken function with nice people, but instead chose to let her know where i was going, who i would be with, and put on my fun home-made costume before i left....i can not keep hurting her like this, nor leading a double life at 48 and have this insane notion that i should be able to share things like who i am, thoughts, and dreams with my wife....
And thank you palmtree...i would kick ass if anyone bashed my wife here...she at this point in her life can not help herself...i know why she thinks the way she does, and am not bitter....
and babayaga...you nailed it....and the moment with my wife so so sad, yet so calm...there was a kind of relief that filled the room a little bit through all the grief...neither of us need a pity party as in the long run we should both be happier...and we should have the right to be happy even though there will be much pain and discomfort adjusting to such a big change in both our lives...
she deserves to grow old with someone by her side at the meetings, and i had every intention of being that person to the end...some people here can just go through the motions of that for years, and i guess i did too...but when it became a health issue for me....deep depression and turmoil just being at the meeting or out in a ministry i knew to be a total sham and farce, i could not endure it, and i can not endure the pain i keep seeing etched into her soul now..........she is truly a wonderful woman..............oompa
