Posts by Tornintwo

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If all the world were JWs....

by Tornintwo in

jw
friends

in my former indoctrinated state, i used to yearn for a time when all the world would be jws.

but hang on minute, let's just think about what the world would be like if everyone was a jw,.

first of all, no higher education, so no medical advances, no scientific research, no modern day medicine, infectious disease rife, no doctors, no engineers, so no modern day comforts.

Tornintwo

No war but instead everyone dying of cholera, malaria etc, stuck in the dark ages with a life expectancy of 30

and I agree with heartsafire, it wouldn't take long for stoning to come back in to 'protect the clean people'..

oh and no Sport to watch on tv, in fact no tv! And what kind of sex lives would we all have? omg I think my zealous jw husband would kill himself. I wonder if they all say thank you Jehovah every night for all the worldly people helping to make their lives so safe and comfortable.

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If all the world were JWs....

by Tornintwo in

jw
friends

in my former indoctrinated state, i used to yearn for a time when all the world would be jws.

but hang on minute, let's just think about what the world would be like if everyone was a jw,.

first of all, no higher education, so no medical advances, no scientific research, no modern day medicine, infectious disease rife, no doctors, no engineers, so no modern day comforts.

Tornintwo

In my former indoctrinated state, I used to yearn for a time when all the world would be jws.

But hang on minute, let's just think about what the world would be like if everyone was a jw,

First of all, no higher education, so no medical advances, no scientific research, no modern day medicine, infectious disease rife, no doctors, no engineers, so no modern day comforts. I wouldn't be sitting here speaking via Internet to people on the other side of the world, there would be no internet! Etc etc.

How about you, how would you envisage this world if everyone were witnesses?

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Stephen Lett at our assembly today

by StarTrekAngel in

he delivered the most cultic piece of propaganda i've ever seen in an assembly.

wife typed up the whole thing.

i will be posting when i get a chance.

Tornintwo

Your associates are like elevator doors, they'll open your eyes, or keep them closed.

If they open you get to step outside and enjoy freedom, if they stay closed you stay trapped inside that small, narrow elevator with a handful of other trapped weirdos for the rest of your life

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Stephen Lett at our assembly today

by StarTrekAngel in

he delivered the most cultic piece of propaganda i've ever seen in an assembly.

wife typed up the whole thing.

i will be posting when i get a chance.

Tornintwo

Ooh tell us more!!!!

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Hey from Ohio

by sissyb in

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friends

hello all - i most likely won't post too often but want to introduce myself.

i've read this board for a long time and feel like i know some of you!

i was a third gen born-in (ne ohio), and half-heartedly believed until i was in middle school.

Tornintwo

Welcome, great intro!

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Daily Mirror article about JWs destroying evidence

by Tornintwo in

i can't see another thread but maybe i missed it:.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jehovahs-witnesses-paedophile-sex-abuse-7278824#comments-section.

Tornintwo

Try again, the last link want to the comments....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jehovahs-witnesses-paedophile-sex-abuse-7278824

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Did you go to your ASSIGNED congregation?

by Zoos in

the rule was (is) that you go to your assigned congregation.. growing up, i think our family was in our assigned congregation only one of three times.

the family made two major moves when i was a kid and each time my folks would visit the various congregations in the area and pick the one with the most kids.

given our association restrictions with the world, they wanted to make sure we had plenty of friends.. i have to give them credit where due.

Tornintwo

Hubby didn't want us to go to our assigned cong a few times, he often had problems with different elders. Of course it held him back and he never progressed beyond m.s., he still loves the Borg, thought even though he's had his fair share of harsh treatment.

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Stepping out of the shadows

by contramundum in

i have been lurking on the site for a few months and thought it about time i plucked up the courage to step out of the shadows and say hello.. i am in the process of fading after realizing all is not right with the organization i had trusted implicitly for over 40 years.

there have always been 'truths' i have struggled to accept entirely, even as a child, but was confident that trusting in jehovah, building my faith and remaining patient would be enough to settle any nagging doubts that remained, so i pushed any inconsistencies to the back of my mind and concentrated on being the best witness that i could be.. over the last few years, however, i have been preoccupied with a number of crises in my family and stepping back slightly from 'theocratic' activity has allowed me to re evaluate a number of concerns and research sources other than the sanitized wt publications.. my eyes are now wide open - i found things which have appalled me and left me feeling extremely let down and disappointed by people i had really trusted.. i tried gently raising a few subjects with my mum (who was baptized early '70s and still remains a staunch wt supporter) but she will hear no criticism of the organization.

i understand this because the best part of her life has been invested in the religion and to acknowledge it may have got things wrong would be to recognize the last 40 years have been a vain waste.

Tornintwo

Welcome contra, great to have you here.

I woke up last year after over 22 years a zealous jw, it's a painful process. I think most of us had doubts and niggles the whole time but it takes something painful or shocking for us to finally listen to those doubts and research them independently. Congratulations on your strong mind.

Like most here, I gave up so many opportunities for the 'truth' and it turned out to be 'BS', it's hard not to feel bitter at what might have been, but it's not helpful, best now to enjoy life and look forward. For a start enjoy the free time when you skip meetings and service and do what you want to do for a change!

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Youths who leave

by Tornintwo in

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friends

having 2 teenagers myself the plight of young people leaving the organisation is close to my heart, shunning of young ones and destruction of families is what triggered my awakening.. ive just heard about a friend of my daughters who is df'd and being shunned by his family, apparently he is part of a campaign to take the shunning issue to the echr, i'm trying to find out more but does anyone else know about this?.

another friend of hers is also being shunned, he's is being allowed to stay at home for now because he can't afford to leave but he isn't allowed to speak to his sister at all and is limited to short greetings with his parents, after which he has to stay in his room.

poor boy has tried to commit suicide.

Tornintwo

Having 2 teenagers myself the plight of young people leaving the organisation is close to my heart, shunning of young ones and destruction of families is what triggered my awakening.

ive just heard about a friend of my daughters who is df'd and being shunned by his family, apparently he is part of a campaign to take the shunning issue to the ECHR, I'm trying to find out more but does anyone else know about this?

Another friend of hers is also being shunned, he's is being allowed to stay at home for now because he can't afford to leave but he isn't allowed to speak to his sister at all and is limited to short greetings with his parents, after which he has to stay in his room. Poor boy has tried to commit suicide. He had no family or friends outside the org. Thankfully my kids have welcomed him into their group so he has more friends now and is doing better and is saving up to be able to leave home.

The whole thing is just a tragedy and I hate the witnesses for this destructive policy. Does anyone know if there is a special forum for exJW youths to give comfort and support?

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Daily Mirror article about JWs destroying evidence

by Tornintwo in

i can't see another thread but maybe i missed it:.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jehovahs-witnesses-paedophile-sex-abuse-7278824#comments-section.

Tornintwo

I can't see another thread but maybe I missed it:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jehovahs-witnesses-paedophile-sex-abuse-7278824#comments-section