Posts by Tornintwo

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Trey Bundy: One Year of Reporting JW Child Abuse - Your comments please!

by AndersonsInfo in

http://watchtowerdocuments.org/trey-bundy-one-year-of-reporting-jw-child-abuse/.

trey bundy: one year of reporting jw child abuse.

it’s been one year since trey bundy first reported the watchtower’s child abuse problems.. twelve months ago the center for investigative reporting (cir) began publishing information about jehovah’s witnesses and their cover-up of child sexual abuse on their website, reveal.

Tornintwo

Trey Bundy's reports helped wake me up last year, it was a time in the early days of doubting that I wouldn't read any 'apostate' literature, but reports from an independent news agency were perfectly acceptable to me. His reports on the Lopez case linked to the actual court documents, irrefutable evidence not even the most ardent jw apologist could not deny. Independent news reports like this are invaluable, even jws can read them guilt free, if only more would.

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BBC Radio 4. 14th February 2016. ''Sunday'' program with article on Witnesses and child abuse.

by ThomasCovenant in

the sunday programme investigates allegations that the jehovah's witness ordered the destruction of documents that could be used during the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse.

was this in contravention of section 21 of the inquiries act 2005 which is punishable by imprisonment?.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0709v34.

Tornintwo

Wow, excellent stuff, would love to see this on the main tv news.

Does anyone else think this could be a calculated risk by the org?

I mean as I understand it they lost the Lopez case in the USA because they didn't want to give up their database, which wasn't great press, but wasn't it a lot, lot worse when the ARC revealed the 1006 hidden peodophiles in Australia? I think they're burning out their shredders in the uk, I mean it's much easier to explain to your members that you accidentally destroyed files thinking you were doing the right thing under data protection law, than to explain why you haven't reported thousands of abusers to the authorities. If they get prosecuted they'll plead persecution, keeping their members onside is their priority.

I hope the law brings its full weight against them and they lose their charitable status.

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Did you get " Counseled " about the Music you Listened to While you were a JW ?

by flipper in

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from the time i was a small boy - i loved rock n' roll music.

beatles, rolling stones, led zeppelin, hendrix.

i started getting slighted for the music i listened to as i lay in my bedroom listening on headphones to led zeppelin's song " black dog " at age 14 with my elder dad looking suspiciously at me as i'm rocking out .

Tornintwo

This kind of judgemental crap is still alive and well, with double standards aplenty for elders and their families. Last year my daughter got friendly with 2 girls who's elder dad had moved the family from the states. She used to laugh about the gangster rap they were into, but in a lighthearted way, these are middle class girls who think they're from the hood or something, using the n word, ratchet etc. my daughter is into indie rock, some quite heavy stuff, but we always kept an eye that the lyrics weren't explicit and we're otherwise very liberal. Anyway these girls were my daughters only piers in the cong and her closest friends for a while until.......they cooled it inexplicably, stopped inviting her over etc, managed to get her excluded from social events. my daughter then 14 was devastated and left lonely and isolated, with little socialising at the weekend, but they would never admit what the problem was. It was this time she started self harm as her self esteem plummeted wondering 'what's wrong with me?' The only clue we were ever given is when their elder dad went on service with my husband and commented "we're concerned about your daughters taste in music..."

hyopocritical, judgemental, nasty, cliquey, awful people. Their Hallmark is love my ass, hallmark is judgementalism.

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Astounding! How much do you REALLY know the history of the Jehovah's Witnesses? I bet you DID NOT know about this!

by park ave boy in

quick background.

a few days ago someone brought up an old new york newspaper called the "brooklyn eagle.

" during lunch i had a little time to do some research about the whole jw.borg and what i found almost knocked me out of my seat.

Tornintwo

Marked for reading later, thanks

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My son's and I's first Valentines Day, Friendship day celebration since our awakening!!

by Khaleesi in

so this weekend will be my first time celebrating friendship day since stop celebrating due to being a jw for years.

the most exciting part for me and makes me very happy is finally to have my son participate and be involved in normal activities at school with classmates.

no longer will i allow him to be ostracized at school due to the wt "cult's" ridiculous reasoning why some things are not okay to participate while others are okay.

Tornintwo

Hi khaleesi, well done I'm so happy that you and your son are enjoying life to the full with all those terrible wordly people lol. My two teenagers just left the cult with me this year, they have both told me how difficult and painful it was to be excluded from celebrations and birthday parties, even though I though we were giving them a good childhood and that they were happy, they were both hurting and felt ostracized, they now have emotional scars. My daughter celebrates her first birthday at 15 next week. I will make sure my little one does not get excluded in the same way.

Thank you for your post it's so nice to hear from likeminded people going through the same things X

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If all the world were JWs....

by Tornintwo in

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in my former indoctrinated state, i used to yearn for a time when all the world would be jws.

but hang on minute, let's just think about what the world would be like if everyone was a jw,.

first of all, no higher education, so no medical advances, no scientific research, no modern day medicine, infectious disease rife, no doctors, no engineers, so no modern day comforts.

Tornintwo

No war but instead everyone dying of cholera, malaria etc, stuck in the dark ages with a life expectancy of 30

and I agree with heartsafire, it wouldn't take long for stoning to come back in to 'protect the clean people'..

oh and no Sport to watch on tv, in fact no tv! And what kind of sex lives would we all have? omg I think my zealous jw husband would kill himself. I wonder if they all say thank you Jehovah every night for all the worldly people helping to make their lives so safe and comfortable.

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If all the world were JWs....

by Tornintwo in

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in my former indoctrinated state, i used to yearn for a time when all the world would be jws.

but hang on minute, let's just think about what the world would be like if everyone was a jw,.

first of all, no higher education, so no medical advances, no scientific research, no modern day medicine, infectious disease rife, no doctors, no engineers, so no modern day comforts.

Tornintwo

In my former indoctrinated state, I used to yearn for a time when all the world would be jws.

But hang on minute, let's just think about what the world would be like if everyone was a jw,

First of all, no higher education, so no medical advances, no scientific research, no modern day medicine, infectious disease rife, no doctors, no engineers, so no modern day comforts. I wouldn't be sitting here speaking via Internet to people on the other side of the world, there would be no internet! Etc etc.

How about you, how would you envisage this world if everyone were witnesses?

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Stephen Lett at our assembly today

by StarTrekAngel in

he delivered the most cultic piece of propaganda i've ever seen in an assembly.

wife typed up the whole thing.

i will be posting when i get a chance.

Tornintwo

Your associates are like elevator doors, they'll open your eyes, or keep them closed.

If they open you get to step outside and enjoy freedom, if they stay closed you stay trapped inside that small, narrow elevator with a handful of other trapped weirdos for the rest of your life

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