I take my toddler to an indoor play center now on saturday mornings where she can make friends, bounce on trampolines, go down slides and jump in ball pools! No more being strapped in a pram pushed from door door and bribed to keep still and quiet!
Tornintwo
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Saturday Morning Vibes
by freemindfade inits saturday morning here on the east coast of america.
i haven't been out in service in probably getting close to two years.
i wake up every saturday extremely happy and thankful im not getting up to go f-ck up my morning and my neighbors morning, not today, not ever again.
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All JWs need to watch this great documentary...it may give them pause for thought.
by deanxxx ini know how hard it is to awaken people still inside the cult bubble.
there are many reasons for this, chief among them the unwillingness to read or watch anything critical of their religion.
on the other hand, jws love few things more than hearing bad stuff about other faith groups.
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Tornintwo
I watched Spotlight last weekend and it's just excellent, it's based in the newsroom on the reporters, it just gives you a sense of the enormity of what went on in the Catholic Church and the scale of the cover up, how high up it went etc. just shocking. -
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Just a simple question.
by Sabin indo you think it is easier for an elder to wake up to the wtbts because of the position he is in which gives him access to info that the rank & file would not be privy to, or do you think it would be harder for him to wake up because of all the prestige/power/admiration he receives as a result of being an elder, or does it come down to something else entirely?.
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Tornintwo
I think it could work both ways, more chance to see what's really going on behind the curtain, but more chance of being so caught up in the action that they either enjoy the position of authority or are too busy to question.
Robo bobo, tell us more about bethel!?!?!?!
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If your Absence doesn't affect them, then your Presence never mattered!
by stuckinarut2 inwhat a powerful quote!.
"if your absence doesn't affect them, then your presence never mattered.".
how true!
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Tornintwo
So true. It does hurt though, because we were told this was the most loving organisation on earth, that this was our real family, that we were all there to support eachother etc etc. so not true. The love is conditional on you being a happy and productive, silent and obedient cog in a very large machine. My teenage kids found this the hardest thing about leaving, they knew something wasn't right yes, logic told them that, but to see how quickly the 'brothers' dropped them and moved on without a second thought, how little effort was made to reach out to them, of course it hurts. But it just tells us all it was never what we were told it was.
My non jw family have always stuck by us, even when we made decisions they didn't understand or refused to celebrate their most treasured events, that's real love. Now I'm glad we can repay them by being there for them instead keeping them at arms length whilst serving a manmade organisation.
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A fresh start
by FormerlySandL inafter the worst introduction i could ever make on the forum i would like to reintroduce myself and make a fresh start on the forum and hopefully over time i will be able to redeem myself.
i have changed my user name which was over dramatic and ridiculous in the cold light of day but for transparency and to show i am not trying to hide anything i have adapted the original name and it now has a more positive feel.
after reading a lot of posts on this forum i am feeling more optimistic about my future.
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Tornintwo
Now, it iwould be very nice to hear what woke you up? What are your doubts, frustrations, what don't you agree with anymore? What is it that has the elders so exasperated with you.
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A fresh start
by FormerlySandL inafter the worst introduction i could ever make on the forum i would like to reintroduce myself and make a fresh start on the forum and hopefully over time i will be able to redeem myself.
i have changed my user name which was over dramatic and ridiculous in the cold light of day but for transparency and to show i am not trying to hide anything i have adapted the original name and it now has a more positive feel.
after reading a lot of posts on this forum i am feeling more optimistic about my future.
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Tornintwo
We all screw up sometimes, you held your hands up, said sorry and I think you should be given the benefit of the doubt. I hope you take the advice about fading and taking time to build a new life, find a new job, new home, new friends and support network. Don't throw away your old shoes before you get a new pair. But dont linger too long either because it's not easy being in limbo and your aim is to leave and live a happy and successful life. Good luck!
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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please
by scared and lonely ini am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
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Tornintwo
S&L most people here are very supportive. That poster was very harsh.
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I was critically ill for a long time...
by The Rebel inbut thanks to the excellent health care on this site iam on the road to recovery, and can now fully appreciate what a gloriouse thing it is to be free from the w.t and savor approaching spring in all its beauty, ....however i am not sure i am ready for debating on all the boards many heavy threads about gods existence and evolution .. anybody else feal the same?
" tis a gift to be simple, tis a gift to be free, tis a gift to wake up and breath the morning air, and tis a gift to each day walk on the path we want to be....." .
the rebel.
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Tornintwo
Respect for differing beliefs I have the utmost, and debate I embrace after years of only sanitized discussion. I only object to people being attacked for their beliefs, or non beliefs. I'm just encouraging care and support especially for newer members.
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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please
by scared and lonely ini am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
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Tornintwo
Just remember, you don't have to tell the elders what you really think! Whilst it might feel momentarily good to do so, if it's going to put you in a real mess then don't. It's actually a very very powerful feeling to nod and smile and agree and thank them for their encouragement (whilst secretly thinking 'what a load of b.s.' ) it means they have no control over you and you take power back and buy yourself the time to get your life in order. -
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I was critically ill for a long time...
by The Rebel inbut thanks to the excellent health care on this site iam on the road to recovery, and can now fully appreciate what a gloriouse thing it is to be free from the w.t and savor approaching spring in all its beauty, ....however i am not sure i am ready for debating on all the boards many heavy threads about gods existence and evolution .. anybody else feal the same?
" tis a gift to be simple, tis a gift to be free, tis a gift to wake up and breath the morning air, and tis a gift to each day walk on the path we want to be....." .
the rebel.
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Tornintwo
Good for you!!! I too feel the fog is lifting now and I'm at peace, ready to just move on with living a normal life and to appreciate the joy of humanity!
Re the God and evolution debates, I think some posters need to keep in mind that some leaving the jws are in a very fragile state, some are very young too, and their faith might be very important to them, even in its changing state, so not to push too hard. I'm all for being open minded, isn't it why we're all here? But we should respect the stages of waking up that some might not be ready, or ever be ready, to dissect all faith in God Richard Dawkins s style.