Posts by Tornintwo

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charities commission in the UK

by zeb in

i am writing to ask for your help in progressing our inquiries into the watch tower bible and tract society of britain.

as you may already know, our work is divided into two parts.

one is an inquiry into the charity’s policy and practices on safeguarding children and adults who are vulnerable.

Tornintwo

I've just replied about my experience in a JW abusive marriage, I went to elders several times over the years and was told to be more submissive, work on my Christian personality and that the abuse was not bad enough to justify separation. Thankfully I eventually woke up and left the abusive relationship and the abusive religion. It never became life threatening in my case, although left a lot of damage on me and my kids. Nevertheless the elders current way of dealing with this could easily result in vulnerable young women being sent back into potentially dangerous situations, and I hope this commission changes that.

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What novels have you been reading recently? Recommend any?

by LoveUniHateExams in

i've always been a bit of a reader - but only reading about topics i find interesting, e.g.

natural history, dinosaurs, etc.. recently i've started to select, buy and read novels.. this year i've bought and read frankenstein (mary shelly), dracula (bram stoker), the hound of the baskervilles (a. conan doyle), 'salem's lot (stephen king), jurassic park (michael crichton) and the firm (john grisham).. i have an inclination towards horrors and thrillers.. what fiction have you been reading?.

could you recommend anything?.

Tornintwo

All 3 Steig Larsson dragon tattoo books are great.

For Thrillers I also love Harlan Coben and Linwood Barclay, both write unputdownable thrillers.

I'm reading The Girl on the Train right now, good yarn!

I find its a great way to de-stress and unwind, reading a good novel.

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here i am

by notalone in

i was a 4th gen born in.my adult children were the 5th.

my mother was one of the newly'anointed' we have all left.

i have been lurking since october.i was really too terrified someone would find out who i was and what would happen.well we are out now so here is a part of my story.

Tornintwo

I'm so sorry for all that you've been through and the lack of human compassion and support that your received from the elders. I would not be surprised AT ALL if there are some very senior members of the WTS on this list that they are so anxious to conceal, from the top down it is otherwise inexplicable how unwilling they are to protect the victim, in cases like this even seeming to prefer to support the perpetrator and to demonize the victim and their family.

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LifesNotOver - Part Two

by LifesNotOver in

jw
friends

thanks for your welcomes so far.

just so you know, i have been on here before as "thereishope".

that was my first username here a month or so ago.

Tornintwo

Welcome, don't you know 70 is the new 50! X

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My 1,000th Post! =)

by Divergent in

jw
friends

after 2 years on the forum, i've finally reached my 1,000th post!.

post #1,000 is dedicated to everyone who i have communicated with & the friends i've made here.

also, to simon who is the reason why we are all here in the first place - thank you for your hard work in making this site what it is.

Tornintwo

Congratulations and well done, you survived and are thriving!! Xxx👍👏😊😬

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Geoffrey jackson quote on fading/ leaving with no sanction

by Tornintwo in

jw
friends

can anyone help me find geoffrey jacksons quote about people deciding to walk away from the religion and not facing sanctions, i need it to cope with some busybody elders.

please xxx.

Tornintwo

thank you....Id explain but its complicated, they're after my 15 year old daughter.

werent there for her when she was desperately trying to do the right thing and be the perfect jw, but when shes been out almost a year and something comes back to them about her social media account, they are just desparate to administer discipline. Idiots. love is the identifying mark HA

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Geoffrey jackson quote on fading/ leaving with no sanction

by Tornintwo in

jw
friends

can anyone help me find geoffrey jacksons quote about people deciding to walk away from the religion and not facing sanctions, i need it to cope with some busybody elders.

please xxx.

Tornintwo

Can anyone help me find Geoffrey Jacksons quote about people deciding to walk away from the religion and not facing sanctions, I need it to cope with some busybody elders. Please xxx

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I feel frustrated

by BlackWolf in

jw
friends

hello all, things for the most part have been somewhat better for me because my parents haven't talked about baptism or anything recently.

i got a scholarship to go to art camp for a few weeks which has been fun (since its free, my parents didn't refuse) but it has also been very nervewracking for me.

i haven't been around any non jws for more than a year and its like being in a different world, a world where people are actually real and genuine and not mindless drones.

Tornintwo

I have 2 teenagers who recently left the org and me too, partly what woke me up was seeing their struggles with the strict bad association rules and the very real detrimental effects it had on both of them. I can only tell you how they handled this problem.

My son wanted to leave like you from about age 14, he would make friends at school etc and wanted desperately to go out with them, he was very 'normal' and popular (not what they want you to be at assemblies), always befriended them on social media, texted them, played online games etc, he would tell them his dad was really strict and he wasn't always allowed out but he didn't give them the whole religion back story, not unless he became very close with 1 or 2.....then he started to make excuses to meet up time to time for a 'school project', he then started sneaking out, in the meantime being as friendly and normal as possible during school hours. The results was that when he made the break he had a big group of friends waiting to greet him.

There were lots of rows with his dad, lots of nights in crying alone, lots of hidden texting and sneaking out....but as his mum I could see all this and the fact that he just didn't have the friends he needed in the org, and worse, when it became clear he was struggling, the witnesses started to shun him (even though he was still doing his best to be a good jw) It was a very painful 2 years for him but now he's out and I am too.

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Awesome Article From An Old Friend Of Ours

by freemindfade in

and a good friend of mine.

i know for exjw-political reasons this link won't work on here, but its worth copying and pasting to read.

enjoy!.

Tornintwo

Just watched his videos on the bunkers and the shunning and thought they were spot on and funny too!

I really can't believe thosse bunker videos, absolutely ridiculous!! don't have coffee with your workmates, don't look at non pornographic internet sites, don't THINK the wrong thing, and if you are already pioneering it isn't enough, sell everything and become missionaries instead! wooah this is pushing the boundaries, added to the bad, slow mo acting and the idea that the whole world will be searching for a few people of an insignificant religion as society collapses. Will anyone be able to keep a straight face watching this stuff?

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"Shunning" - now a Watchtower word?

by slimboyfat in

i know jws have long used the word "shun" in a general sense, as in "shun what is bad".

but i think they have long avoided using the word in relation to disfellowshipping.

in external media or literature wherever the word "shunning" was used in a piece about jws it was usually a good indication it was critical of watchtower and not a neutral or supportive commentary.

Tornintwo

when I first started having doubts i used the word shunning and my jw husband said sarcastically "shunning?, we don't SHUN anyone, thats an apostate word" hmmm now his CD must be on high alert