http://www.registerguard.com/news/2003/03/02/ol.shunned.0302.html
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march 2, 2003
Blondie,
Thanks for this article. Hopefully it will open some eyes. I couldn't help but chuckle about JR Brown's comments about how thousands repend and come back. What most people on the outside don't know is that the reason these thousands came back, is not because they felt sorry for what they did and wanted back, but because shunning was too much for them emotionally and rather than go through life having lost your family and friends, they go back.....how sad.
in doing my income taxes, i noticed that the fed.
government is getting more generous with tax credits for education.. even without itemizing deductions, you can still reduce your tax liability significantly by going to college.. the hope credit can give you $1500 bucks and some state income taxes may also contribute to this worthy cause.. i know it's expensive - and the tax credits only pay a little - but with the internet in place, going to college has never been.
easier or more convenient.
Yes, I agree 100%. I'm graduating with my Associates next month, and then start on my Bachelor's the following month. The dubs, as always, continually tell the R&F not to go to college because it's time better spent in the ministry. I've wanted to go to college for years, but now that I'm free, I'm pursuing my dream of college. Never say it's too late to go....it's never to late in life to become educated!!!
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no need to worry about going to doctors who spend years at medical school, folks!
just pray that your path will cross with a jw who's kept up to date on their awake!s - they will diagnose complex conditions that doctors were unable to, in nothing flat!.
As usual, the Society likes to make you think that reading the Watchtower and Awake will not only solve your problems, it will solve everyone else's. While I'm glad the lady's son is okay, once again we have the Society making much ado about nothing. Do they think that stuff they print in the mags is the only stuff that will help people? (Of course they do) But it's really kind of pitiful that they have to resort to articles like this in order to make people believe that you learn everything you need to know in life from their magazines.
in particular it seems like every wt for the past year or so has a section or a paragraph pumping up the elders.
or talking about them being "gifts in men"?
or like the part on the service meeting this week, interviewing an elder and making him seem better or different from the rest of the cong.
Yes, I have seen these pioneer "only" dinners or "get-togethers". I was even part of a pioneer "weekend" once back in the late '80's. I've also seen the "elder only" dinners. All it did was make the publishers upset because you only got to go to these functions if you were of the elite. Whenever the Society would say how servants and elders are only there to serve and not have a lofty position, it always made me laugh, because the opposite was true. These were positions of authority that you had to work your way up to, just like any other corporation.
Being made a pioneer or servant was a "promotion", and many of these ones thrived on the fact that they had authority or that they were looked up to. Heaven forbid they ever become just a lowly publisher ever again. The Watchtower Society is truly a corporation in every sense of the word. This is one corporation you WANT to get fired from...........
that is right-- do not pray for thier families!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
they had no business being up in the heavens anyway, the earth is what jehovah created for mankind,
man has continued since the days of nimrod to reach into the heavens.
Good to see you posting again JT. As always, you make very good points. And yes, sad to say, many JW will not have one ounce of fellow feeling for the astronauts and their families. They only feel it was doomed to happen to them because of mankinds "worldly pursuits".
I remember back on 9/11, both my wife and I were extremely saddened, like the rest of the nation, at the tremendous grief that thousands of families had to deal with. We were still in the org at the time. My wife cried for many days afterwards, but when she shared her feelings of sadness with family and others, they almost criticized her for feeling compassion because they were just "worldly" people and this type of stuff was to be expected in "the time of the end". This was just one of many factors that influenced our decision to leave. They will never have compassion or feeling for anyone unless they are JW, even though they say they do. Once again it shows the hypocrisy that is so rampant in the Society.
just a curious question to see what types of stories i get.
let's hear how you do it.
Hey...Orbiting the Sun is back!! I always have enjoyed your posts!
As far as meetings go....yeah right!! The wife and I quit in August of last year. I could never imagine having to sleep sit through another meeting. Sometimes I just scratch my head and wonder how in the hell did I do it for as long as I did.
dear governing body .
i read this in an article on your "official" web site today.
it's in the index, under religion in the article called what is the purpose of life?
Here's the link in case anybody wanted to see it....
has anyone else been told about this...... word out of hq bethel has it that the upcoming special international conventions will contain some kind of major information or releases.. we know the gb has been rather quiet the last couple years after their 'reorganizing'.
perhaps because they are facing the sex abuse scandal..... but also likely they have been working on some fancy surprises for the upcoming special international conventions, to excite their masses......... and also try to detract them from the scandals.
it would be good timing of their part.. this should be interesting......... .
What is sad is that the JWs would swallow that without even blinking.Hell, it sounded good to me. I know if I was still a dub, I would've bought into what minimus said if it was coming from the FDS. Just goes to show that the FDS can say whatever it wants, and the R&F will believe it without question...because after all, God talks only to them.
has anyone else been told about this...... word out of hq bethel has it that the upcoming special international conventions will contain some kind of major information or releases.. we know the gb has been rather quiet the last couple years after their 'reorganizing'.
perhaps because they are facing the sex abuse scandal..... but also likely they have been working on some fancy surprises for the upcoming special international conventions, to excite their masses......... and also try to detract them from the scandals.
it would be good timing of their part.. this should be interesting......... .
1. The Watchtower could be studied at the "Book Study" instead of after the Public Talk2. After the Public Talk, have a meeting that combines the TMS and SM. We do this type of thing now during the visit of the CO. It works when he is in town. The information in the Isaiah Book or any new publications could very easily be included in this meeting.
3. To keep the "three times a week format," simply call the "meeting for service" on Saturday or whenever the third congregation "meeting" each week (let's face it, it IS a meeting!)
This would free up an entire night for family activities or whatever.
Does this make sense ???
I have a better idea......let's just not have any meetings or service at all. That makes the most sense to me......
Edited by - jimbob on 24 January 2003 19:30:38
im not sure if is prudent to post this here.
i have a contact ( relative ) that is very close to a writing department researcher.. he claims that there was a private extraordinary meeting that was had about 6 months ago.
9 of the gb members were present and a handfull of elitists that apparently no-one knows or would recognise.
Elsewhere stated:
I have noticed that when they make a change, they do not go back and "un-disfellowship" the people they persecuted through shunning for disagreeing with them. This tells me that they are not really interested in truth and righteousness... they are only interested in power.
Couldn't agree more! If you disagreed on something in the past and were df'd for it, and later the FDS reversed their thinking....they just tell you that you weren't obedient to the FDS at the time and so it didn't matter whether you were right or wrong in your thinking. They tell you that you deserved to be df'd because you disagreed with the FDS. What humble and caring people.....
