http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/134406/1/Petition-Tell-Museums-to-Stop-Hiding-Watchtowers-Past (Link to the first part of the story)
Posts by AnneB
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27Success with the Holocaust Museum!
by rebel8 inbackground: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/134406/1.ashx.
i just got a letter from the museum saying they have added all documents i donated to their archives, and they have m. james penton's book in the archive as well!.
activism does work sometimes!
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Racism, Justice and What Goes Unnoticed
by metatron ini have a well educated friend (who happens to be african - american) and i love our discussions because i can talk to her openly and honestly, with less guardedness than others.
on one hand, i feel i'm right - but on the other hand, i acknowledge that she may have a viewpoint that i haven't considered.. we argue about obama - she, that he may lose due to racism, i , that racism didn't prevent him from being elected.
as to 'justice for trayvon' being a reason for black on white violence, let me ask the following:.
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AnneB
Ever hear the expression "black and white town"? I heard it when we ventured out of SoCal and into the Midwest, where I was raised. It was used after I commented that the place where we were visiting seemed to be all white (and my family is not). I was told "the whites come out during the day and the blacks come out at night". I thought it was a strange answer, then I found out it was an accurate statement.
My grown, married kids now live in that town, that area. Racism is rampant. I left. They're still there, seemingly by choice. I don't get it; I raised 'em better'n that. My (future) husband and I left for California right after I graduated from high school.
As for grandparents, my mother wouldn't acknowledge my kids for years. When I was pregnant with the first one she actually offered to have the[ir] father killed. How it escaped my notice all the years I was growing up that my mother was talking one thing and living another I don't know, but once I figured it out I was glad I had only picked up the "good". It was no better on my husband's side; my MIL didn't want "that white girl" riding in her car. She tried to get us to give up that baby for adoption, she threatened to have him taken away. To the day she died I was never accepted, and this was an "educated" woman!
Metatron: You wrote "How did this happen? A rebellious teenage daughter dating a black guy, I'd wager.... " It couldn't have been love, eh??? And what makes you so sure it's the guy who is black?
You also wrote that "As late as the '50's, lynching still existed - but today is different, remarkably so." Really? As late as the late '80's we had to leave a Southern state because the local JW's warned us that my oldest son was about to be lynched (for real). His "crime"? He went out in field service with a white sister while her husband was at work. In that same town my oldest daughter was denied service at the local lunch counter while in the company of her mother (me), another (white) sister, and that sister's little daughter, same age as my girl. The waitress wouldn't take her order, wouldn't serve her food, but served the rest of us. The sister recognized what was happening before I did and got us out of there. We came back to SoCal (where all that matters is the color of your money; "Green Power").
Wish we'd stayed in CA, but no, my mother claimed she needed help so back we went into another part of the country where we lost property to the threat of arson, simply because we were willing to accept business from anyone who cared to do business with us. That was unacceptable in that large, Midwestern city; the blacks were supposed to stay East while the whites lived on the West side of town. How do you fight (and win) when attitudes like that are ingrained in communities for generations? We left 'em to it; we moved.
I don't think it's any better today. I'm still in telephone contact with some of the people I knew from "back there" in the Midwest. Every now and then I go back to visit. One by one, though, I'm losing those "friends" as unguarded comments make it clear that they never "approved" of my family composition.
Another phenomenon is the "choosing" that a lot of teens and young adults go through: my own daughter (same one mentioned earlier) differentiates between her two sisters and categorizes the younger one as "white". She pretty much rejects that sister on the basis of her color. Same two parents, same house, same upbringing, but that daughter has internalized the notion that color makes a difference. She's pretty much rejected me as well. I've talked to kids at a Midwestern university who told me the troubles they were having coming to terms with their parent's decision to become a couple, and how they, too, basically rejected one in favor of the other based on how they perceived themselves in terms of color or race. Again, prior to that discovery I was oblivious!
Can't we all just get along???
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Getting away with murder - Literally
by usualusername inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi3hyxuf5ae.
do you agree with no prosecution for father?
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AnneB
uun: Let me get back to you about dinner, some of the rellies are sleeping. :)
tec: That's just it, you can't get the corruption out of the legal system. Innocent people die in the legal system too. If it interests you, take a look at how highway patrol(s) are formed; they're basically system-sanctioned vigilante groups!
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Getting away with murder - Literally
by usualusername inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi3hyxuf5ae.
do you agree with no prosecution for father?
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AnneB
Let me check with my children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren on that one.
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Getting away with murder - Literally
by usualusername inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi3hyxuf5ae.
do you agree with no prosecution for father?
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AnneB
Vigilante: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigilante
What's wrong with being a vigilante? People have been socialized into believing (or at least passively accepting) the notion that someone/something else can do "better" than they can. Is it true or is it a ploy to drain power from those who rightfully have it?
uun: Awwwww....best compliment ever! That's as it should be! :)
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Getting away with murder - Literally
by usualusername inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi3hyxuf5ae.
do you agree with no prosecution for father?
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AnneB
Cold blooded murder can be the best kind; fewer mechanical errors.
uun: As I said earlier, wait 'til you have kids, then you'll understand.
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Getting away with murder - Literally
by usualusername inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi3hyxuf5ae.
do you agree with no prosecution for father?
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AnneB
That's it exactly, tec; the father didn't have to think it through, he knew what had to be done and he did it. Brave man.
yourmomma: I'm not in favor of giving molesters a chance to think twice.
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Getting away with murder - Literally
by usualusername inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi3hyxuf5ae.
do you agree with no prosecution for father?
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AnneB
Nah....the night is young (here)....discuss! :)
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Getting away with murder - Literally
by usualusername inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi3hyxuf5ae.
do you agree with no prosecution for father?
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AnneB
I'd say the father did it because the guy was a pervertER; he caused the boy's loyalties to change from family to him. The abuse went on for over a year and, apparently, the boy didn't tell his parents. The karate teacher did serious damage to the family arrangement, not just to the child. It was more than molestation or kidnapping, it was loss of security, loss of trust, meddling with thought processes, all kinds of things that will affect them all the rest of their lives. The boy didn't deserve that, his family didn't deserve that. The guy did wrong and knew it, else why the secrecy?
All these things don't have to come up into the conscious mind in order to know how to handle such a situation. All that was necessary was for the father to restore his son's trust. What better way than to eliminate the destroyer?
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Getting away with murder - Literally
by usualusername inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi3hyxuf5ae.
do you agree with no prosecution for father?
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AnneB
He didn't spend 20 years in prison, did he.
Do you think he did it because of the kidnapping?