I want him to know I have always loved him as a friend and admired him as a person of integrity.
Just say that, and not a word more....then WAIT.
AB
well, i finally found him on facebook!.
his name is tollie padgett.
he was my congregation overseer (before the "elder" changeover) when i was in prison in seagoville in the late 60's.. i've been searching for him for years and years.
I want him to know I have always loved him as a friend and admired him as a person of integrity.
Just say that, and not a word more....then WAIT.
AB
i am the disowned child of two jehovahs witnesses.
im writing a book about this experience (along with other stories from disowned individuals).
as a courtesy, i called my mother last week to let her know about it.
You were Lola28, weren't you?
because of "religious" differences, she now wants me to move out and "separate"...i said what biblical grounds does she have for her request?.
she couldnt respond...she said she'd rather be beaten up by me than have an "apostate" in the house.... this org definitely encourages conditional love.... i don't know what to do...by the way, we dont have children.
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Not even bothering to read the other responses; this is the straight answer for how to handle your situation:
Tell your wife you aren't going anywhere, that if anyone is leaving it is going to have to be her since leaving is her idea. Then drop it. Go about your business and let her deal with her thoughts.
DO NOT LEAVE.
righto, so who would like to get married?
i'm a great cook, good with kids, can clean and am currently in the process of losing weight.
in 6 months i'm good to go.
Have you considered opening your own business? You listed several things that you are good at, plus you have training and experience in advertising. What's stopping you???
As I see it, the only thing holding you back is your persistent reliance on somebody else to do the heavy lifting for you.
DIY, girl!
although we all know that there are many disadvantages of being brought up ( vomit sound) in the truth.
but would you say that leaving has maybe caused you to do some things that you would not have normally have done in life ?
for me personally now i have lots of free time ( mine all mine, evil laugh) i have almost finished my first novel.
Yours is a loaded question. "Leaving The Truth" is different than "leaving WT", "leaving Jehovahs's Witnesses", or "leaving an organization". Which one is meant defines how the question is answered...and what readers will take away from the exchange.
"Leaving The Truth" sounds like something the WT would turn into an article, especially if the responses showed any "fall into sin", "worldly pursuits", etc., you know, anything you would not normally have done.
...and that word "normally"...what's "normal", especially in WT society? Did you mean "usually" or maybe "would not have done if you were a faithful JW"?
"Pure Language" and plain English are different. The responses you receive will depend, in large part, on which you use to frame your query. GIGO
how great would it be for it to turn out that this dude is an exjw (watch it till the end, you'll understand):.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckfbgdzor_0.
http://youtu.be/4y7i1ascs5o.
What a sweet, sweet kid. Really humble. That last remark of his went straight to my heart.
God bless him...please.
AB
im not talking about simply being reinstated.
i remember hearing a story about a brother that was disfellowshipped because of the testimony of two false witnesses.
years passed before they admitted to lying about the brother and was reinstated.. what is policy in this sort of situation?
I, too, wondered why there was no apology. The sister had the notion that it was a refining process and since it was permitted by Jehovah there was nothing to apologize for. I think she actually believed it. I sure didn't.
im not talking about simply being reinstated.
i remember hearing a story about a brother that was disfellowshipped because of the testimony of two false witnesses.
years passed before they admitted to lying about the brother and was reinstated.. what is policy in this sort of situation?
A divorced sister from one congregation married a divorced brother from another congregation. One elder in her hall was not convinced that her future husband was scripturally free to marry, so when he heard through the grapevine that they had gone to Las Vegas and married, he announced that both were DF'd; no JC, nothing.
It took 18 months but finally it was announced that the DF'ings were "rescinded". It was as though they were never DF'd...except for what they, their families, their friends, etc. went through during that time. The elder remained an elder. The sister was convinced that The Truth had won out and never even thought of turning away from The Org. As far as I know, both are still JW's today.
I knew the sister quite well at the time this happened; haven't seen or talked to her in several years.
i live next to jw neighbors.
i was a jw 1000 miles away over 20 years ago, never here.
as far as i know, nobody here knows i once was, including the neighbors.. so there wouldn't be any reason for them to shun me.
If they can't remember to put out their trash (so you end up doing it), why do you expect that they'll remember to help you? That's where your reasoning breaks down, imo.
Stop taking out their trash. Let them learn to do it. Maybe once they figure out how to handle their own basic responsibilities they'll have a brain cell developed enough to think about helping you.
Running a sales pitch is not the same as conversation, btw.
AB
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/14/local/la-me-pedophiles-20130115/2.
many researchers taking a different view of pedophiliapedophilia once was thought to stem from psychological influences early in life.
now, many experts view it as a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change.january 14, 2013|by alan zarembo, los angeles timesas a young boy, paul christiano loved the world of girls the way they danced, how their spindly bodies tumbled in gymnastics.
If I understand the article correctly, the real issue being discussed is impulse control. Pedophilia is just the example they use. (And why not? Who would click open article about impulse control?)