Bruce smith was the one involved in my removal as an elder. At the time it was one of the worst times of my life. Now if I saw the man again I would thank him and give him a hug.
ldrnomo
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Who Are Your Past Circuit Overseers? It's a small world..
by mentallyfree31 inwho were your past circuit overseers?
i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).
ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).
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Did/Do you witness to Prostitutes while doing Street Work?
by african GB Member indid you simply ignore them, or did you try to "help" them with magazines while witnessing in the streets?.
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ldrnomo
I would have probably flirted with them
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Talking to two J dubs on a busy downtown street
by ldrnomo inso im out of town for a couple of days for a software seminar.
it didnt start until noon yesterday so i took a walk down a busy street famous for its shopping and as i got to the end of the stores and the beginning of apartments i noticed two women standing on the sidewalk in front of what i later noticed was a kingdom hall.
as i started walking by giving them a smile and a polite greeting the one that was older, they were both young based on my terms the older in her 30s middle to late the younger in her 20s probably late.
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techdotcom,
apology accepted, you do have a point although I did say at the time I wasn't sure on the figures.
sir82,
your illustration is a good one I will keep that in mind the next time someone says that to me.
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Talking to two J dubs on a busy downtown street
by ldrnomo inso im out of town for a couple of days for a software seminar.
it didnt start until noon yesterday so i took a walk down a busy street famous for its shopping and as i got to the end of the stores and the beginning of apartments i noticed two women standing on the sidewalk in front of what i later noticed was a kingdom hall.
as i started walking by giving them a smile and a polite greeting the one that was older, they were both young based on my terms the older in her 30s middle to late the younger in her 20s probably late.
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jehovahsheep asked,
since you feel you have overturned their belief system-what hope did you share with them?
I do not feel that I overturned their belief system. And that is a typical argument of JW's about apostates and what they do. You know as well as I that a few thought provoking words does not turn over a belief system that has been in this case I believe constructed from birth.
If I were to think about an answer to your question and if I gave them any hope at all it would be that,
You can think freely and enjoy life without feeling that you have to puppet the thoughts of others.
You can and should live life to the fullest now because none of us really know what's going to happen when we die.
You don't have to be afraid of God, if he is out there at all.
You can get into a bad accident and get the full medical attention you need including blood if needed to save your life.
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Talking to two J dubs on a busy downtown street
by ldrnomo inso im out of town for a couple of days for a software seminar.
it didnt start until noon yesterday so i took a walk down a busy street famous for its shopping and as i got to the end of the stores and the beginning of apartments i noticed two women standing on the sidewalk in front of what i later noticed was a kingdom hall.
as i started walking by giving them a smile and a polite greeting the one that was older, they were both young based on my terms the older in her 30s middle to late the younger in her 20s probably late.
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Bane Bane Bane
Predictable presentation huh? And you DON´T have one? The blood issue, Ngo issue....Do YOU have anything new?
The "Jehovah's going to kill em all destroy em all issue"
I'm sure others may have something to add to the list.
And yes I am obsessed but not in a bad way. I just like to help people think beyond the box. It's very freeing.
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Talking to two J dubs on a busy downtown street
by ldrnomo inso im out of town for a couple of days for a software seminar.
it didnt start until noon yesterday so i took a walk down a busy street famous for its shopping and as i got to the end of the stores and the beginning of apartments i noticed two women standing on the sidewalk in front of what i later noticed was a kingdom hall.
as i started walking by giving them a smile and a polite greeting the one that was older, they were both young based on my terms the older in her 30s middle to late the younger in her 20s probably late.
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Bane Bane Bane
Predictable presentation huh? And you DON´T have one? The blood issue, Ngo issue....Do YOU have anything new?
The generation issue.
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Talking to two J dubs on a busy downtown street
by ldrnomo inso im out of town for a couple of days for a software seminar.
it didnt start until noon yesterday so i took a walk down a busy street famous for its shopping and as i got to the end of the stores and the beginning of apartments i noticed two women standing on the sidewalk in front of what i later noticed was a kingdom hall.
as i started walking by giving them a smile and a polite greeting the one that was older, they were both young based on my terms the older in her 30s middle to late the younger in her 20s probably late.
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StoneWall said
Not sure where you arrived at that figure.
Had to be holy spirit. Next time I go back I'll tell them I have new light.
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Talking to two J dubs on a busy downtown street
by ldrnomo inso im out of town for a couple of days for a software seminar.
it didnt start until noon yesterday so i took a walk down a busy street famous for its shopping and as i got to the end of the stores and the beginning of apartments i noticed two women standing on the sidewalk in front of what i later noticed was a kingdom hall.
as i started walking by giving them a smile and a polite greeting the one that was older, they were both young based on my terms the older in her 30s middle to late the younger in her 20s probably late.
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techdotcom said:
Since your basic conclusion is correct, I hate to criticize. However, if you are really interested in being the light of reason and intellect to the those who have been lied to and mislead, then it hardly seems like a good idea to either lie outright to prove your point, or to simply guess without really looking up the data.
I see your point about accuracy, but I didn't have the figures in front of me and I was feigning ignorance and did mention that I did not know the exact figures however they accepted my illustration as valid. At least as valid as a JW can think beyond the cult.
By the way your segue way into your critique raises a question. If you hate to do it then why do you? Is it a sacrifice you feel you need to make to help out a lesser intellect?
I'm just teasing you know. I don't care. I love this forum.
But life is too short to do anything that you hate to do. You don't have to criticize if you hate to.
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Talking to two J dubs on a busy downtown street
by ldrnomo inso im out of town for a couple of days for a software seminar.
it didnt start until noon yesterday so i took a walk down a busy street famous for its shopping and as i got to the end of the stores and the beginning of apartments i noticed two women standing on the sidewalk in front of what i later noticed was a kingdom hall.
as i started walking by giving them a smile and a polite greeting the one that was older, they were both young based on my terms the older in her 30s middle to late the younger in her 20s probably late.
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One thing I made them think about was the growth rate of who they thought would be saved and the growth rate of who was going to be killed.
So I first got them to agree that to be saved they would have to be taught the Bible by Jdubs then I asked them how many of those there were they said around 7,000,000, . I then asked them what the growth rate was of their religion and they didn't know so I estimated way high like 10% so they could figure it out easily, neither of them knew how to figure 10% of 7 million so I had to tell them the answer then I told them there were about 3.5 billion people on the earth and it the growth rate of the earth was 10% per year, I know it's more than that but I just wanted to get the point across that the longer their God waits, the more people he's going to have to kill, I mean destroy
IE:
3.5 billion +10% = 3.5 million
7 million + 10%= 700,000
That's over 2 and 3/4 million a year more people that God is going to have to destroy. After telling them these calculations, I told them "you ladies are going to have to get busy"
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Talking to two J dubs on a busy downtown street
by ldrnomo inso im out of town for a couple of days for a software seminar.
it didnt start until noon yesterday so i took a walk down a busy street famous for its shopping and as i got to the end of the stores and the beginning of apartments i noticed two women standing on the sidewalk in front of what i later noticed was a kingdom hall.
as i started walking by giving them a smile and a polite greeting the one that was older, they were both young based on my terms the older in her 30s middle to late the younger in her 20s probably late.
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So I’m out of town for a couple of days for a software seminar. It didn’t start until noon yesterday so I took a walk down a busy street famous for it’s shopping and as I got to the end of the stores and the beginning of apartments I noticed two women standing on the sidewalk in front of what I later noticed was a Kingdom Hall.
As I started walking by giving them a smile and a polite greeting the one that was older, they were both young based on my terms the older in her 30’s middle to late the younger in her 20’s probably late. Anyway as I was saying, the older one took a step forward and started going through the usual mindless presentation. It hasn’t changed.
So then I said “is it your religion that doesn’t believe in using blood to save lives” There was a slight reaction that looked like they were taken aback and then they presented the usual lines they’re Watchtower puppet masters want them to say.
Over the course of about an hour I carefully led them into every corner of their beliefs I could think of IE:
Everyone being killed by God. They obviously didn’t like the fact that I so quickly arrived at the conclusion that the wicked were essentially everyone that was not a true believer. When I asked them what a true believer was they couldn’t get away from admitting true believers were Jdubs They didn’t like the fact that I kept saying everyone else would be killed they kept correcting me and saying you mean destroyed.
It was all pretty basic stuff. I knew what I could get them to say by leading them into conversations. It was fun because they of course are so predictable.
The good news is that I took one 192 page book “What Does the Bible Really Teach” and one blood pamphlet out of circulation as I quickly cast them into a trash container where they belonged. I debated about giving them to a beggar on the street along with a coin but I couldn’t do that to a poor homeless person.
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