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  Is there a Ministerial Servant Qualification Change?

  by Simon Templar in

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  2. beliefs

  it used to be that if an adult child (either a non-believer or disfellowshiped/disassociated) lived "under your roof" and lived by the "bible standards of the home", the father could be appointed either a ms or elder as the case may be.

  of course, if the adult child was a believer and a member of the congregation, they had to be exemplary.

  i overheard at the meeting yesterday, taking place in a side conversation held in the corner, that if this living condition exists, the father cannot be appointed because of the presence of the non-participating adult child in the home.

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  FadingTruth

  Here's the pertinent part from the Shepherd the Flock (elder's manual)

  
  
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  "New Light never contradicts Old Light, but simply adds to it"

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. bible

  does anyone remember this classic quote from a society publication??.

  i remember it has been quoted many times, but i cant find the reference.. if this comment is to be taken literally, it condemns the organization anytime there has been a complete changes in teachings and doctrine!

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  FadingTruth

  Here are a couple more articles that say that the brighter light is progressive
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  Cedars leaked letter requested to be taken down by WTBTS

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i don't know if this is already posted so sorry people if it is.

  cedars site has had a request to take down the leaked letter regarding changes to the theocratic ministry school and other issues.. the reason given by wt is that it is a "copyright" issue.

  of course this validates the letters authenticity even more.. have a good day or night people.

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  What would we think if Simon were issued such a notification? We would want him to fight it!

  Village Idiot, are you volunteering to reimburse Simon for all legal costs and time spent to fight something that has been leaked sufficiently across the Internet?
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  Does anybody know how to access the wikipedia library of old WT publications? It's a special access.

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  any help would be really appreciated.

  their library contains wt publications that go back to 1880's.

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  FadingTruth

  Village Idiot, PM'd you.

  I don't want to post it publicly incase JW lawyers are lurking to file a DMCA.
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  Does anybody know how to access the wikipedia library of old WT publications? It's a special access.

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  2. bible

  any help would be really appreciated.

  their library contains wt publications that go back to 1880's.

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  FadingTruth

  Do you have a link to what you're referring to?

  Also, pm'd you a website that has a lot of older publications in PDF form.
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  How do we know the WTS monitors this site? Can anyone tell me for sure?

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  2. friends

  i keep hearing this in threads.....

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  JWleaks, what was the end result from that warning letter? Was the site shut down, were you sued?
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  I'm posting here an informative email from STEVEN UNTHANK

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  yesterday, a jwn poster e-mailed me asking if i would post on this discussion board his recent email to steven unthank and also post stevens reply.

  the reason for the request is because the poster has need to remain completely anonymous.

  i agreed to share the email because i knew you would find stevens reply informative and interesting.. .

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  FadingTruth

  Thank-u for bumping up this thread. I hadn't heard about Steven Unthank before and his role before the Australian courts.
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  Did anyone see Jackson state "celebrating Christmas not a df'ing offence"?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have seen posts on several you tube sites stating that jackson said during his rc testimony that jw's don't shun, celebrating christmas is not a disfellowshipping offence, birthdays are ok and ones doesn't have to agree with jw doctrine.

  i have read most of the posts on other threads while and after his testimony but never read any of this?

  did he really say these things or is someone on the net just stirring up some bs?.

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  FadingTruth

  Somewhat true, he was really wishwashy.

  Download his entire testimony and then keyword search for Christmas, Birthday, etc.

  Link to every transcript:

  Jackson's is the last day's testimony.

  Below is a notable exchange:

  Q: So, for example, if they had become inactive or sought to fade without formally disassociating, and the elders came to visit and found them celebrating Christmas or a birthday, they would be found to be in transgression of the rules, would they not?

  Jackson: That is not my understanding. But again, as I said, it is not my field, that goes into policy with regard to those type of things, but from my personal experience, that's not the case.

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  Jackson: Yes, but if I could mention, Mr Stewart, your first proposition you put forward, that they meet someone who is celebrating Christmas ‐ you know, this person is not associating with other Jehovah's Witnesses, not actively trying to change other people, and so on ‐ a person such as that is not going to be handled judicially, as far as I understand. So, sorry, I have to disagree with you, but I hope you can see
  
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  Just had a former elder friend tell me, “This Overlapping generation is crap.

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last night i ran into a former elder friend, he is in his late 70s.

  he asked how i was doing and i asked how he was doing.

  then out of the blue he tells me; .

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  FadingTruth

  John, Datadog etc, yes the like/dislike system is glitching.

  Twenty upvotes for everyone on this page.

  Aquila, I was not "upset" with your experience; I enjoy reading your posts. I just take all experiences with a grain of salt, especially since being duped for decades in this org and not being able to exercise my right to question anything I read ;-)
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  Just had a former elder friend tell me, “This Overlapping generation is crap.

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last night i ran into a former elder friend, he is in his late 70s.

  he asked how i was doing and i asked how he was doing.

  then out of the blue he tells me; .

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  John, you have to many good stories or experiences, are you making this stuff up. I surely hope not

  Read through his posting history. It's always a variation of "last night I bumped into..."

  The amount of people he accidentally bumps into that proffer personal and very incriminating beliefs is astounding. He must have a very trustworthy face and live in a village with a population of 50.