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  UN/WTS SCANDAL IN USA NEWSPAPER

  by hawkaw in

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  after much hard work a certain person has finally got the story published through a letter to the editor in the san bernardino sun.

  you will find the article in the november 28, 2001 edition of the newspaper in the "opinion" section.

  note the voice of the people section.

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  GermanXJW

  There is an artikel in a local German paper today that mentions the UN relationship.

  http://www.maerkischeallgemeine.de/?loc=3_2&id=13924&weiter=250
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  New NGO-Letter by German Branch

  by GermanXJW in

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  storch - a participant on the german board http://www.infolink-net.de/forum.htm wrote to the german branch.

  he got the following reply.

  and his local elders informed him without any reference to the letter that he is not to do talks in the tms at the moment.. the english translation is mine.

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  GermanXJW

  There are still some sections in the German letter I like to comment on:
  

  In the reports, obviously a fact has been (maybe intentionally) misunderstood and used to discredit Jehovah's Witnesses. We can assure you that Jehovah's Witnesses and the legal corporations used by them have never been a part of the United Nations.

  Obviously a question (maybe intentionally) has been misunderstood and another one was answered. Nobody ever asked if the WTS has been a part of the United Nations.

  We can add that at the time of the registration there was not even the need to sign the registration-form which shows how low the significance of the registration was perceived.

  The scanned forms on the net show that at least after the registation only a High Rank Official could sign. That shows how important the significance was evaluated by the UN.

  Dear Brother ***, what makes us always a bit sad is the fact that some of our brothers seem to have a stronger confidence in the media and reports launched by our opposers than to statements made by the Organization by means of which they have learnt the truth.

  It's the inverted rule found in the Live Forver-Book (p.47): "Well, if someone told you the truth a hundred times, would you suddenly doubt him when he told you something new? If you had never found him wrong, would you now begin to doubt him? How unreasonable that would be!"(p.47) It also works vice versa.

  Of course we expect to be reproached, slandered and that any tiny occasion is used to put us in a bad light. We expect that and we are even happy about it because we endure this for Jehovah and his son (Matthew 5:11; 1 Peter 4:14).

  They were caught in the act and now they try to pass it on to Jehovah and His son.

  Surely, no one of us wants to belong to those mentioned in Matthew 24:49 and 3 John 10. Of course, Satan would be happy if he urged us that far.

  This is obviously New Light. Matthew 24:45-51 had its fulfilment in 1914-1919, so today we can not belong to those mentioned in Matthew 24:49, can we? Except we are Russellites? I don't think it were Russellites pointing to the UN WebSite.

  Our opposers always spread the idea that we do some secret operations while keeping the publishers ignorant. These accusations are likely as old as Christianity itself -

  This is an interesting one. They don't say that they don't have secret operations but just say these are old accusations and link themselves to 1st century Christians. BTW, any evidence from the first century that Christian leaders were accused of having secret operations while keeping the adherents ignorant?

  those putting their confidence in the leading of the men appointed by God were blessed.

  And the WTS is appointed by God, right?

  One example for this is Absalom's rebellion. He reproached God's annointed king David when he told those who came with a legal case to the king: “See, your matters are good and straight; but there is no one from the king giving you a hearing.”

  Pretty far away from the NGO thing,hm?

  Surely, we want to follow Ittai's example who firmly stood by Jehovah's annointed

  Reads: "Now look up who Ittai was and leave us alone."

  In the confidence that Jehovah is giving us all the power to endure

  They need a lot of power to endure...
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  New NGO-Letter by German Branch

  by GermanXJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  storch - a participant on the german board http://www.infolink-net.de/forum.htm wrote to the german branch.

  he got the following reply.

  and his local elders informed him without any reference to the letter that he is not to do talks in the tms at the moment.. the english translation is mine.

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  GermanXJW

  See the Original letter scanned at http://observer.org

  Unfortunately, the English translation still contains my copy/paste-mistake mentioned above.

  I have already mailed Kent to correct it.
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  New NGO-Letter by German Branch

  by GermanXJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  storch - a participant on the german board http://www.infolink-net.de/forum.htm wrote to the german branch.

  he got the following reply.

  and his local elders informed him without any reference to the letter that he is not to do talks in the tms at the moment.. the english translation is mine.

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  GermanXJW

  It's also funny that they introduce their letter to the branches speaking of "published allegations by opposers" and conclude in the official response: "We are grateful that this matter was
  brought to our attention."

  :-)
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  New NGO-Letter by German Branch

  by GermanXJW in

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  storch - a participant on the german board http://www.infolink-net.de/forum.htm wrote to the german branch.

  he got the following reply.

  and his local elders informed him without any reference to the letter that he is not to do talks in the tms at the moment.. the english translation is mine.

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  GermanXJW

  Farkel, please notice that the quoted sentence is not in the German letter as I wrote above. I did a cut and paste-error while putting the English original into my translation from German to English.
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  New NGO-Letter by German Branch

  by GermanXJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  storch - a participant on the german board http://www.infolink-net.de/forum.htm wrote to the german branch.

  he got the following reply.

  and his local elders informed him without any reference to the letter that he is not to do talks in the tms at the moment.. the english translation is mine.

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  GermanXJW

  That they say in an official letter that some brothers are going against the Society even as mouthpieces because of the information shows that they are really having a problem.
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  Your favorite and least liked society publication?

  by Celtic in

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  did you have a favourite publication?

  what was your least liked publication?

  creation book for the shady wt take on science.. unseen spirits, do they help us or do they harm us?

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  GermanXJW

  @Sleepy

  the Daniel-book was for me the one to make me say hmmm. I think it was contraproductive for the Society to let it be studied. Most JW were not aware of the silly applications because they were silent about it for decades. But maybe they wanted to get rid of the last thinking people.
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  New NGO-Letter by German Branch

  by GermanXJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  storch - a participant on the german board http://www.infolink-net.de/forum.htm wrote to the german branch.

  he got the following reply.

  and his local elders informed him without any reference to the letter that he is not to do talks in the tms at the moment.. the english translation is mine.

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  GermanXJW

  @fodeja
  Saying "new" I meant "added to the standard reply". Please note that the brother who has written to the branch has not been given any tasks in the TMS from that time on. The elders did not mention his letter but just said that the brother responsible for TMS does not put much trust in him at the moment.

  @hawkaw
  Posting the documents again has made this thread very slow. But thankyou for your work to get this detailed documentation.
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  New NGO-Letter by German Branch

  by GermanXJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  storch - a participant on the german board http://www.infolink-net.de/forum.htm wrote to the german branch.

  he got the following reply.

  and his local elders informed him without any reference to the letter that he is not to do talks in the tms at the moment.. the english translation is mine.

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  GermanXJW

  I think what's new in this reaction is the creating of guilt in the letter writer: you are making us sad, you are not thankful because we taught you "truth" and now you don't believe us
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  New NGO-Letter by German Branch

  by GermanXJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  storch - a participant on the german board http://www.infolink-net.de/forum.htm wrote to the german branch.

  he got the following reply.

  and his local elders informed him without any reference to the letter that he is not to do talks in the tms at the moment.. the english translation is mine.

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  GermanXJW

  Sorry! Because I am a lazy person I copied/pasted the English text from Brooklyn headquarters. The official quote of the Brooklyn text starts with "Our purpose for registering with the Department of Public Information as a
  nongovernmental organization (NGO) in 1991 was to blablablba

  Sorry again!