I was never fully convinced in everything they taught, but I also didn't think anything specifically was wrong. I just knew I didn't like it. I knew that I didn't like the feeling of having to work to be a good person and to be righteous through my works instead of my heart. And really non of the stuff studied ever really made sense, not that I didn't understand what they were saying, but I always struggled with why they made such issues about things that they did, how they came to some conclusions, etc. etc. But because of what my father told me, that my issues stemmed from my grandfathers abuse because he put bad things in my head, and once I seperated that from my issues with the religion I'd see it was "the truth," I just let it all go. When I was disfellowshipped I didn't go back because I couldn't take the hypocrisy, and I told myself that even IF I didn't make into "paradise Earth" I was ok with that because if it meant I had to live my life with people like that I didn't want it.
It wasn't until about a year or two after I was DF'd that I started seriously questioning the entire basis of "the truth."
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by jambon1 ini was only in for 10 years.
however, i never feel that i 100% believed it all, even at the point of baptism.. i think after the initial period of 'love' shown on the part of the brothers, i must have only been a baptised brother for about 4 years when i knew it was all wrong on so many different levels.. i remember a sister saying to me "once they have got you under the water, that's when you see the real way they treat you".
it all changed after baptism.
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What are you doing tonight/weekend?
by KW13 intonight i am going to be driving down to st. helens (not far from liverpool) with an aunt to drop off her car at a friends garage and then coming back with her, fortunately her friend is lending her a car otherwise we'd be stuck there lol.. saturday i am going to a bon-fire with family minus mum and stepdad (don't get me wrong i wish they were there).. sunday - no idea.... .
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Going to see my friend's band play (another ex JW) and Sundance is filming all the bands playing tonight for an upcoming movie. The rest of the weekend...veg....have some drinks....the usual ;)
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Your Opinion: Worst action/aspect of WTBS?
by feenx inso i'm curious to get your opinions.
in your minds what is the worst part of the wtbs?
the abuse issue, money, false teachings/doctrines, control?
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blueviceroy:
I agree with much of what you said. I think that's a very succinct way to put things. I do believe there are those, still inside the organization, who honestly believe they're doing the right thing. Which saddens me, however it is their choice. Just as we all have made the choice to leave they have chosen to stay. I don't attribute any purposeful harmful intentions to them, I think they're misled as to their part in a disugusting entity.
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Well i finally did it.........i got my nose pierced, and it felt soooo good
by free2think inand im really really happy with it.
i also got my ears pierced again, so now i have three on one side and four on the other.. i just wanted to share that with you all..
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Free2Think:
Not too long after I was DF'd I got a black tribal piece, on the inside of my right arm, with a Biohazard symbol in the middle ;);) I thought that was fitting since apparently I was "dangerious material" for my unscriptural actions, it was kind of a setting myself free/stay the hell away from me statement. -
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Your Opinion: Worst action/aspect of WTBS?
by feenx inso i'm curious to get your opinions.
in your minds what is the worst part of the wtbs?
the abuse issue, money, false teachings/doctrines, control?
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wow, some very awesome thoughts so far! Awake and Watching: I was listening to that song this morning on the way to work, totally a great application. Blueblades: That is quite an inciteful thought. I've never thought of it in that sense, that a solitary belief has led to so many actions that have affected millions of people for over a century. I suppose it goes to show the power of even just one thought or belief, regardless of whether it's right or wrong.
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Well i finally did it.........i got my nose pierced, and it felt soooo good
by free2think inand im really really happy with it.
i also got my ears pierced again, so now i have three on one side and four on the other.. i just wanted to share that with you all..
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Very nice! looks good. I remember how good it felt when I got my eyebrow pierced (even though I had to take it out a year later cause of work). But then I got my tattoo and that was great :) I like the ears too, nice!
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Your Opinion: Worst action/aspect of WTBS?
by feenx inso i'm curious to get your opinions.
in your minds what is the worst part of the wtbs?
the abuse issue, money, false teachings/doctrines, control?
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Hello All :) So I'm curious to get your opinions. In your minds what is the worst part of the WTBS? The abuse issue, money, false teachings/doctrines, control? Obviously all of them are horrible and reason to not be a part of the religion. But what has affect you the most? I've been doing a lot research lately into the WTBS in general, and it seems everyday I come across yet another aspect of them that at the very least is less than desireable. So, for you, what's been the worst?
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If You Dressed Up on Halloween- Who Would You Dress Up As ?
by flipper inthought i'd do another one on halloween!
i'm in the spirit!
no pun intended !
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Jehovah's Witness here.
by nimzo ini have a question about my religion.
when people turn apostate, why do they seem kinda... weird.
they turn back to false teachings and their bible knowledge even proves that.
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Nizmo: I can understand how it may appear that "apostate's" are "weird." Regardless of whether who's right and who's wrong, JW look at everything throughout everyday life and the future through a certain view. Essentially they look at life through a pair of sunglasses. When anyone sees another person take that pair off sunglasses off, hence displaying different behavior, it would seem weird. That in and of itself has nothing to do with doctrine, the bible, beliefs or what's right and what's not. JW's are a very tight knit, inclusive organization. So when anyone breaks from that their head is spinning. Tomorrow marks 5 years since I've been out and I still have certain mental reflexes when presented with something. Also, I find it inaccurate to group all such "apostates" into a single grouping like that. Keep in mind that ALL one has to do within the organization to be labeled to an apostate is to think against what the WTBS teaches. This does not mean that they are automatically spreading "false teachings" or trying to sway anyone. Simply put, if they stop and ask "is this right?" they can be labeled as an apostate. This is a direct mandate from the WTBS, as stated in various Watchtowers: "As mentioned in paragraph two, page 17 of the August 1, 1980, Watchtower, "The word 'apostasy' comes from a Greek term that means "a standing away from,' 'a falling away, defection,' 'rebellion, abandonement.' Therefore, if a baptized Christian abandons the teachings of Jehovah, as presented by the faithful and discreet slave [the 144,000, as represented by the Govening Body of Jehovah's Witnesses][20], and persists in believing other doctrines despite Scriptural reproof, then he is apostatizing. Extended, kindly efforts should be put forth to readjust his thinking. However, if, after such extended efforts have been put forth to readjust his thinking, he continues to believe the apostate ideas and rejects what he has been provided through the 'slave class' then appropriate judicial action should be taken. [21]." Notice that it says if they abandon the teachings as shown through the GB. So essentially if someone comes across a teaching, doctrine or practice say perhaps through their own personal study that does not make sense with what is provided through the WTBS and questions it, they are technically an apostate. That is quite a broad definition to label apostates in general as "weird." In fact technically the billions of other people in the world who are not baptized JW's technically are apostates. So again, I don't automatically think what you are characterizing as "weird" or "dillusional" has anything to do with being an "apostate." It simply means they have taken off their JW sunglasses and you are still looking at the world through those glasses. ALSO, Scotsmen: Curious as to what changes you know about that are coming down the pipe??
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Anyone ever know a Tom Pulsipher?
by feenx inhas anyone ever come in contact with tom pulsipher?
he previously was in the brentwood, wheat ridge and castle rock congregations in colorado.
he was in mn for a period of time, not sure which congregation there, and currently i believe he is in ohio (again not sure which cong.
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Has anyone ever come in contact with Tom Pulsipher? He previously was in the Brentwood, Wheat Ridge and Castle Rock congregations in Colorado. He was in MN for a period of time, not sure which congregation there, and currently I believe he is in Ohio (again not sure which cong.) where if I remember correctly his son, Steve Pulsipher, is a CO. He has been an elder for quite some time, I'm sure he still is.
And this is me last year (both years me REAL hair) 