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My mom is into "The Secret"

by BlackWolf in

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lately my mom's gotten into all kinds of weird "power of positive thinking" kind of stuff.

she watches "the secret" and bob proctor videos all the time, and now she's trying to get me into it.

to me her being into this sort of thing seems kind of hypocritical.

Thanks for sharing your opinions. I don't think she is becoming a new ager, it's more like like this stuff just reinforces her current beliefs. I haven't really bothered her about it much, only one time when she was complaining that I was being "too negative" one day and that thinking that way would somehow harm me. That made me kind of angry and I told her I don't believe in that stuff, so then she got angry too.

Anyways, I guess I will just let it go for now. If she did become a new ager, although it is kind of ridiculous, I would actually be very happy. At least she would stop shunning family members. Unfortunately that will never happen (maybe if I think real positively it will? xD)

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My mom is into "The Secret"

by BlackWolf in

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friends

lately my mom's gotten into all kinds of weird "power of positive thinking" kind of stuff.

she watches "the secret" and bob proctor videos all the time, and now she's trying to get me into it.

to me her being into this sort of thing seems kind of hypocritical.

BlackWolf

I don't think she's awake by any means, I just think she believes anything that makes her feel good emotionally. I don't know if she is happy with her life or not, she is kind of a hard person to read but she does seem to genuinely enjoy being a jw and gets a kick out of judging others. I feel sorry for her sometimes though, I really hope she gets over this.

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My mom is into "The Secret"

by BlackWolf in

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lately my mom's gotten into all kinds of weird "power of positive thinking" kind of stuff.

she watches "the secret" and bob proctor videos all the time, and now she's trying to get me into it.

to me her being into this sort of thing seems kind of hypocritical.

BlackWolf

Lately my mom's gotten into all kinds of weird "power of positive thinking" kind of stuff. She watches "The Secret" and Bob Proctor videos all the time, and now she's trying to get me into it. To me her being into this sort of thing seems kind of hypocritical. Is all about the subconscious mind and using magical thinking to get what you want, doesn't seem a whole lot different than witchcraft to me. Doesn't the Watchtower always say to avoid this type of self help thing and "worldly thinking"? I am awake and I don't have any issue with people who are into this, I am just angry at my mom's hypocrisy. If I watched that stuff before she was into it I'm sure she would of given me a talking to, telling me how spiritistic it is.

Anyways what do you guys think? Is the "law of attraction" approved by the watchtower? In my opinion the whole concept of it is bs and I hate that she is so controlled by her emotions that she will believe anything. She is always mad at me for listening to my "satanic" music yet she gets to do whatever she wants I guess.

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My Dad wants to study with me

by BlackWolf in

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so my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.

the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.

he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.

BlackWolf

So I just finished "studying" with my dad, and I think it went relatively well. I was able to bring up some of my own ideas without getting into a big argument. I ended up telling him that I accept evolution and I can't ignore the facts. One piece of evidence I used is that cetaceans have bones that resemble back feet and serve no purpose. When I asked him what he thought of this all he could come up with is "I don't know", at least he is being honest with himself. I also explained to him what a scientific theory really is, since he had no clue. Anyway the study is going to continue next week and I'm hoping I can bring up a few more points that might open his eyes a little. I'm not going to get my hopes up too much though. I'm trying to be as calm and respectful as I can, and so far he has been the same. I really hope things stay that way. I think he may be bipolar or something because there are times when he is really calm and understanding, and other times when he is really angry and even abusive. I understand he can't help it though, I have mental issues as well.

Anyways, thanks everyone for your encouragement. If your interested in seeing my drawings I have an Instagram: zarahchristensen

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My Dad wants to study with me

by BlackWolf in

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so my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.

the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.

he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.

BlackWolf

Thank you everyone for your support. He's going to "study" with me tonight. I'm not just going to go along with whatever he wants (and I'm definitely NOT going to get baptized), but I'm not going to start an argument either. I'll tell him my point of view and if he disagrees I'm not going to fight with him. Maybe eventually he will understand that I'm not interested and give up, who knows.

Also, I am a girl. Maybe the username I picked seems masculine? I don't think gender is important but I guess in Jehovah land it is. Most witness women are treated like crap and I don't want to be one of them.

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My Dad wants to study with me

by BlackWolf in

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so my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.

the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.

he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.

BlackWolf

His wanting to study with me wasn't really a question, I doubt we will get through the whole book anyways. I know he is just doing it for his ego, he normally ignores me anyway. I've never been very close to my dad (he works a lot plus elder duties), but I still love him. It feels bad disappointing my parents, even though I really hate them sometimes. I will have to study with him, and I will be honest about any doubts I have. I can't keep pretending anymore. I think they know deep down that I don't want to be a Jehovah's witness, I've never been very "zealous" or enthusiastic about the religion, even when I was a little kid. However, my little sister has. She has always done exactly what was expected and got baptized when she was 11, now that I am nearly 18 and everyone else my age is baptized people are suspicious. I have no friends and people treat me like an outcast. I think it's time for me to just be honest (hopefully in a non confrontational way) and if worse comes to worse maybe one of my non jw relatives will let me stay with them. I know that my dad thinks he is doing what is best for me, but in reality it just makes my life feel so worthless.

Anyways as always I appreciate everyone's support and advice, it really helps me not feel so alone.

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My Dad wants to study with me

by BlackWolf in

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friends

so my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.

the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.

he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.

BlackWolf

So my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized. The other day my Dad told me that I was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why I wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so I told him calmly that I have many doubts and if I were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea. He was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "Is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me. I'm not sure if I should just go along with whatever he says and then be expected to get baptized, or if I should try to bring up some doubts I have about the book which may cause problems (my dad has anger issues). What would you do?

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Did anyone catch the irony in the December JW Broadcast?

by sir82 in

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there was an interview with a 107 year old lady who had been a jw since the age of 10 or so.

remembers seeing the "photodrama of creation" when it was still a thing, etc.. so she's explaining about herself & her husband witnessing thru the years, 1930's thru now.. she says at one point, her husband called on a guy who said something like "the last time i got a call from a jw, it was 50 years ago in xyz village by a guy on a bike who said armageddon was coming soon.".

the lady was just so tickled, because the guy on the bike was her husband, who happened to run into the same guy (who remembered him) 50 years later.. and i'm thinking "wait a minute....her husband said 'armageddon was coming soon' 50 years earlier...obviously he was completely wrong.

BlackWolf

I think he was riding a little white horse, not a bike. That video really disturbed me, imagine preaching all those decades, wasting all those years, and what does she get for it? Nothing. How could someone remain faithful that long and never doubt? Maybe she has nothing else to look forward to.

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Angry and scared

by BlackWolf in

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i feel like everything that comes out of my mothers mouth is something negative and cringe worthy.

all she seems to talk about with me is how terrible and demonic our disfellowshipped relatives are, how horrible the world and holidays are, or how she is so much better and "holier than thou".

it really makes me sick sometimes.

BlackWolf

Pete zahut: I appreciate your advice a lot but the thing is that i have done exactly those things and it only seems to anger my parents even more. Every time they ask I just say that it's my own decision to make when I'm ready, and then my dad just says "well, when will you be ready?". It's really frustrating because if I try to actually talk to them about my doubts things will end badly like they did last time. They of course won't accept any reasoning unless it is from the watchtower. I fear that once they realize the full extent of my doubts they will kick me out. My parents shun several of our family members who were never baptized because "they turned their back on Jehovah". I know they will do the same to me.

Thanks everybody for your advice, it's nice to not have to feel like I am all alone.

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Angry and scared

by BlackWolf in

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i feel like everything that comes out of my mothers mouth is something negative and cringe worthy.

all she seems to talk about with me is how terrible and demonic our disfellowshipped relatives are, how horrible the world and holidays are, or how she is so much better and "holier than thou".

it really makes me sick sometimes.

BlackWolf

I feel like everything that comes out of my mothers mouth is something negative and cringe worthy. All she seems to talk about with me is how terrible and demonic our disfellowshipped relatives are, how horrible the world and holidays are, or how she is so much better and "holier than thou". It really makes me sick sometimes. I Know she is just trying to scare me into wanting to get baptized. She's been doing it all the time lately, she asks me almost everyday if I want to get baptized and my answer is always that I don't know. I wish I had more courage to speak up and tell her how I really feel, but I'm terrified. I don't want my parents to treat me like I'm a bad person. The last times I've tried to talk about my doubts didn't end well. But at the same time the thought of having to stay in this religion for the rest of my life makes me feel like taking a knife to my throat. My mom always says that life is only worse out in the "world", but I know that can't be true. I will be 18 next year and I'm so scared about the decision I'm going to have to make. I have no friends or family that I'm close to, I have nobody. I can't seem to find a job to save up money either, so I don't really know what to do. Thanks for reading this, sometimes I just need to get things out of my system. Any advice would be appreciated.