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  outted!!

  by chickpea in

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  follow this brief convolution for a second:.

  bex and i are friends from the kh we had attended.

  i found a friend of bex's, leesa, also from that same.

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  LOL...!

  Well, when there really isn't that much happening in your own life you gotta make stuff up about others...
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  A Demon Experience?......This was/is very serious to me.

  by awildflower in

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  so when we moved here from maine to okc, six years ago this coming april, my daughter was 7. the military moved us so it brings a big moving truck to your house and unloads all of your stuff etc.

  we had been settling in for a few months and my daughter starting telling me that she was hearing things in her room.

  small things at first, just enough to prick up her ears.

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  I think it rather likely that the stress of the move - which puts everyone on edge - had more to do with it than demons.

  Children personalize everything. Everything bad or stressful is their fault, in their mind. Mommy and daddy are mad, it's their fault. You move, it's their fault. Often they have to some up with a reason that it is their fault, and "I want to have sex with Satan" sounds like a typical scenario for a young mind to latch onto - things are bad because, obviously, I want to have sex with Satan - what could be worse? That must be it!

  I would think it is coincidence that the mattress went away at a time when she was perhaps settling down - or, conversely, the removal of the mattress was a way for her to conclude that things were OK now. The removal becomes a trigger for a return to normalcy, and sometimes a child needs a reason why things can now be alright again. Besides, she undoubtedly picked up on the whole "the mattress is demonized" theme as it was discussed and its removal became quite a ritual. It's not unusual for a child's attachment of causation to change like this - Bad THings are happening, it must be my fault, it must be that I want to have sex with Satan, oh wait there's a demonized mattress, ok it's gone everything's ok again.

  Funny how that can work: a child internalizes blame for something bad, and then takes a cue from the outer world that everything's alright now.

  As an aside, it is not too unusual for a child of 5 to be interested in the physical sensations of his body - however, detailed articulation of sex scenes may be an indicator that they have been exposed to sexual behavior in media or may have been exposed to some degree of interference. I wouldn't get too upset, and it was 15 years ago, but if it were to happen today I would ask the child if he was play acting something he had seen, or if that was just something that felt nice.
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  "Secret Watchtower" - No, there is NO Secret Watchtower

  by RubaDub in

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  so as not to hijack other threads, i still can't understand why people keep referring to the new, "members only" watchtower as "secret?".

  if you go to the meeting, you will get a copy.

  if you have a family member, you can get a copy.

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  The study WT is a type of "CONTROLLED" document.

  It is "secret" in that it contains poisoned Kool-Aid stronger spiritual food that reasonable people would reject.
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  The serpent (Pat Robertson) speaks!

  by Nathan Natas in

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  pat robertson blames haiti earthquake on pact with the devil.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5nraknwoes.

  "true story," pat said.

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  ...and 9/11 was due to da gayz, feminists, abortionists (apparently a bunch of people he disagrees with)...he did later apologize for that, maybe he'll recant this one, too...

  Funny though that even though all these folks are still around, Gawd seems to have lost a little interest in punishing with airplanes flying into buildings...true story!
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  how do I banish negative thinking?

  by creativhoney in

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  the kind that keeps me awake at night.. i feel so sad at the moment.

  stupid man trouble the one aspect in life im not strong in, the guy i have loved for two years.

  hes on a date today.

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  I dont want him to love me, I want to have no feelings for him whatsoever.

  I still love everyone I've ever loved. And there's sadness that those relationships didn't turn out as they might have.

  I have not stopped loving them, missing them, decades later.

  But I also am disciplined enough to not need to be in contact with them. I can love them, and not need them.

  I don't have to change my feelings, they are what they are. I don't have to change their feelings, they are what they are.

  I can change my behavior, and choose to do what is healthy and good for me.

  Perhaps there is room to love yourself more than someone else, then be able to love as much as you love yourself. The WTS molds us into people that discount ourselves in favor of others, sometimes. When that happens, we start judging our worth by how others see us, and need them to need us.

  It can be a long relearning process to value ourselves, and enjoy the company we keep when we are alone.

  How do I banish negative thinking? the kind that keeps me awake at night.

  Find something you love and immerse yourself in it. Music, books - meditation. Meditation, while listening to non-demanding music that nourishes your heart, can help you focus on your experience of existing, on what it is like to be alive and have a body in this world. Focus on what it is like to breathe, what it is like to have a heart beating.

  This is "boring". There is little to occupy the mind. We are taught to use our minds all the time, and much of our sadness can come from replaying thoughts in our minds. As you mention.

  If not meditation, perhaps creative visioning: use your mind to imagine a yourself doing things you would never think of doing in life. Use your imagination, occupy your mind, with visioning your future: who is there, who you are in relationship with, how youare acting, how you are feeling.

  And drift off in peace...
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  Agnostics/Atheists, To Whom Do They Give Thanks?

  by african GB Member in

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  christians thank god/jesus when things go well for them,.

  muslims thank allah,.

  jws thank jehovah,.

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  Thanking God and blaming Satan is a sure way to avoid personal responsibility.
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  What songs or movies, helped, inspired you....?

  by tjlibre in

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  what songs or movies, helped, inspired or uplifted you in your journey out of the wt?

  this is my anthem...helps me feel better.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgt1aidzrwm.

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  Hitch a Ride - Boston
  (Scholz)

  Chorus:
  Gonna hitch a ride
  Head for the other side
  Leave it all behind
  Never change my mind
  Gonna sail away
  Sun lights another day
  Freedom on my mind
  Carry me away for the last time

  ...and then:
  Life is like the coldest winter
  People freeze the tears I cry
  Words of hail their minds are into
  I've got to crack this ice and fly
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  Comment in newspaper- they blame JW molestation victims

  by moshe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  a newspaper story today mentions an irish catholic church coverup and then explains that jehovah's witnesses have done their own cover ups of molestation, too.

  i guess this comment must be the typical reaction of, i assume, a loyal jw--- blame the victims!- http://www.hvpress.net/news/155/article/8576/2010-01-13.html.

  "what a shallow piece of journalism.

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  JW victims are always told to go to the police

  I'd laugh if I weren't already crying!
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  The Probabilty of there being an Intelligent Designer

  by cantleave in

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  2. beliefs

  i have been thinking a great deal about where i stand at this moment in time in terms of a belief in a creator verses a belief in an evolutionary process.

  i think the best way to describe it is an exploratory path.

  i look at what is around me and i acknowledge it is remarkable.

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  DD: Why do you need tools [to detect that which can kill you]?

  Because our senses are too limited for science. There are animals that see and hear things that exist beyond our direct experience. There are other tangible artifacts that require more delicate tools.

  It is the job of science to explain what is measurable. Human sensory apparatus is not sufficient for that job.

  Indeed, without external mechanisms of some kind, it is very difficult to determine the rate of time passing, and our defintions of segments of time are for the most part arbitrary. Time is not a monolithic, constant, perfectly forming dimension - it is malleable, changing relatively through the simple difference of rate of motion.

  What came before time? There may have been no time at all. None of us were there. We often lack the imagination of an Einstein to form a theory of what that might have been like, it is so far out of our experience.

  My point is that simply because we are not familier with an artifact coming into existence without a designer does not mean a designer must have existed for life. There is no evidence that life was designed, and there is evidence that life forms have evolved.

  We are not generally familiar with time flowing in different ways, but that does not mean that it always flowed at a predictable rate - indeed, the evidence is that time is a relative "dimension".

  From what I have seen, the human psyche becomes very uncomfortable when presented with a paradigm outside of its common experiential context, and therefore insists that things must be the way that reduces anxiety. "There must have been a Creator." "Time must have always flowed."

  It's as if very few people can be satisfied with, "I don't know."

  
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  Bible God & Human Sacrifice

  by ThomasCovenant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  big j sent his son little j to earth as a 'human' sacrifice.

  the fact that little j was allegegdly about 30 years of age when the deed was done shouldn't take away from the my concept of christianity being based on child sacrifice.. imagine the hullabaloo if jesus had been 7 years of age when he was nailed up.. there is a precedent of course for the whole 'i need a sacrificial child' thing .

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fah5jayljti.

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  VoidEater

  Thanks, PSac: While it was a digression from the OP, I like your view of it. Thanks!