Posts by gilwarrior

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Whats the strangest watchtower/awake article ever

by sleepy in

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friends

whats the strangest watchtower/awake or other publication article you,ve ever seen?.

i know theres some very strange old articles , but a few years ago there was one in the awake if i remmember right which had a picture of two brothers holding hands on the ministrty.. one was african the other white.. apparently it was common for men to hold hands in this country and was perectly normal for hetrosexual men to do.. a brother who was a missionary recounted how he was shocked when out with a local brother for the first time on the ministry and the brother took his hand in his.. a lot of people though the article was very odd and didn't like it.

gilwarrior

I remember this one article that mentioned that masterbation can cause sterility.

Well I guess I can have any children of my own!

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love and sex.....do they go hand and hand?

by gilwarrior in

as some of you know, i few days ago i lost my virginity.

since then me and my lady friend have had sex two more times.

however, i have no romantic feelings twords her.

gilwarrior

Thank you everyone for your comments. I do have this one lady friend who I got out with every week. As the days go by have fallen in love with her more and more. However, there are a few problems.

1) she is still in love with her ex-boyfriend
2) she is 43. I'm 28.
3) she is very religious (she is not a JW), so I don't think that sex will happen anytime soon.

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love and sex.....do they go hand and hand?

by gilwarrior in

as some of you know, i few days ago i lost my virginity.

since then me and my lady friend have had sex two more times.

however, i have no romantic feelings twords her.

gilwarrior

As some of you know, I few days ago I lost my virginity. Since then me and my lady friend have had sex two more times. However, I have no romantic feelings twords her. She told me that she has no romantic feelings for me either, but that she still would like to continue having sex with me. This would sound great to some people, but this situation has left me feeling empty. I don't really have any desire to have sex with her anymore. I feel the need to move on. What could this possibly mean? I love the sex I am having with her, but I want love as well. Am I being selfish or should I be happy with what I have? All input would be appriciated.

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Question about WTS/UN scandal

by gilwarrior in

ok we know that the wts was, until recently, associated with the un even through the wts clearly condemns it.

of course the reason they gave for associating with the un is lame.. my question is this: what do you think is the real reason that the wts decided associate themselves with the un?.

i don't think that anyone has ever answered that question.

gilwarrior

OK we know that the WTS was, until recently, associated with the UN even through the WTS clearly condemns it. Of course the reason they gave for associating with the UN is lame.

My question is this: What do you think is the real reason that the WTS decided associate themselves with the UN?

I don't think that anyone has ever answered that question.

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My Story........I'm free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

by gilwarrior in

i dont remember much about my early years.

my sister and me hated it!

i remember the woman who my mother started studying with came and she gave the card set to her.

gilwarrior

Well it tool me awhile, but here is my story. It is rather long so grab some popcorn and a drink and enjoy.

My Story

Early Years

I was born in Monterrey, Mexico in 1973. My father came to the US shortly before I was born. My mother and me joined him about three months after I was born. My family and me settled in Houston, Texas. My sister was born two years later. I don’t remember much about my early years. I remember living in an apartment building and having lots of other friends to play with. The first big change happened around 1978. My family moved to a house across town I went to school, but didn’t get along with other kids as well as I did in the other place that I lived. In my neighborhood there were hardly no kids to play with and the few kids that where there I didn’t get along with very well. I was very shy as a kid. Making matter worse was the fact that my parents didn’t speak English very well and I had to interpret for them. My sister and me hated it! We would have fights to see who would interpret for them. Even to this day my parents want me to translate for them and I still hate it! Despite this we still managed to have good times.

First Contact With Witnesses

Anyway, my life changed around 1981. My mother became disillusioned with her Catholic faith. She left the church and started going this other church where people would do things such as faith healing and speaking in tongues. She started having nightmares and was convinced that a demon was trying to take hold of her. She stopped going to that church and started reading the bible on her own. I few months later she was visiting a cousin of hers who ran hair salon. One of her clients was a woman who was a Witness. She began studying with the Witnesses. We started going to the meetings. Then everything changed. We stopped celebrating holidays such as Halloween, Christmas, birthdays, and just about everything else. I didn’t really question it. I was told that that was what God wanted and I accepted it. In 1982 my mother was baptized at the District Assembly in Beaumont, Texas. My Dad was baptized two years later and then my sister was baptized in 1991. I never remember my Dad going out on service or really participating in the service. Eventually he became inactive. Thankfully I never got baptized.

Doubts

As a Jehovah’s Witness I was told that this was God’s true organization. I never really questioned anything. My family seemed happy. However as I look back I realized there were things that did not seem right. Although our family stopped celebrating several holidays we never replaced them with anything else. There were gatherings of Witnesses, but it was never really any fun. Sometimes we would go to someone’s house for some kind of gathering, but I never had any fun. Also I never really had any Witness friends. For some reason I never got along with anybody. Sometimes at school people would try to be friendly with me, but of course I rejected them, because as a Witness I should never be a friend with a “worldly” person. So I didn’t get along with Witnesses and I rejected “worldly” people. Guess what? I didn’t have any friends. However, when I was in the fifth I made a “worldly” friend. His name was Eli. My parents never made any attempt to stop me from seeing him. He is my best friend. A better friend than any Witness was.

Also there were other things that I thought were rather off. I remember when I was nine years old. My Dad gave some money to spend however I wanted. I remember buying this magic card set. I went home all happy and showed my family these magic tricks that I learned. My mother then told me that Jehovah God detested magic and I had the magic card set taken away from me. I remember the woman who my mother started studying with came and she gave the card set to her. I don’t what happened to them, but I guess she threw them away. I also remember buying these two Smurf books when I was about eight. During this time there was all this talk about the Smurfs being demons or something. I had these two books taken away from me as well. Looking back at both these incidences I realized how stupid and dumb some people could be.

However the incident that had the most impact on me happened in 1990. My father was working for this elder who had his own business. My father had some money saved up and decided to start open up his own business with this elder. The business started, but the problem was that the elder did not have any money to put into the business. That was just the start. His family tried to muscle my father out of the business. However, it didn’t happen. My father eventually fired him. My father went to the elders in our congregation to talk about what had happened. However, since the brother was an elder himself guess whose side of the story the elders believed. People in our congregation stopped going to our business. My father, who was inactive, became more disillusioned and stopped going to the meeting altogether.

School

School was tough for me. I was told that Witnesses should not participate in sports activites. I was rather tall and big for my age. I remember in junior high a coach telling me if I wanted to try out for football or basketball. I really wanted to, but I had to be a good little Witness and turned them down. I wanted to join band in high school, but people in my congregation told not to do it, because in band you had to go to sporting events and you also had to play the national anthem. Of course as a Witness you couldn’t do that. So I joined Orchestra, which I hated. I felt really embarrassed sometimes when I had to explain why I couldn’t salute the flag or in Orchestra when I had to explain why I couldn’t play Christmas songs. I remember one particularly embarrassing episode in Elementary school. When I was in fifth grade, students had to pick a boy and girl from each class to represent the student consul. Well in my class guess which boy chosen? That’s right, me! I felt flattered that I was chosen, but worried too. I remember being told that Witnesses should not participate in school politics. For the rest of the year I felt so guilty about being on the school consul. I didn’t have any fun at all, because of this guilt. Well in high school I got very depressed. My family went to a doctor who it turns out was a Witness. He gave me some Prozac, but it didn’t do anything. This very same doctor had a grandson who went to my school. He and these two twin sisters who were Witnesses hung around each other. I never knew of any other Witnesses in school with me so I was excited. I tried to talk to them, but they never expressed any interest in being friendly with me. So much for true Christian unity.

After School

After high school I didn’t really do much. I worked at my Dad’s bakery, but didn’t know what I wanted to do. I went to the meeting sometimes and I even had two different people give me a bible study, but I was never really interested. I felt so guilty. I never understood why I was never interested in the meetings. I was told that they were so great, but all I ever felt was boredom. I tried making friends, but all the Witnesses I knew were rather boring and the other ones never wanted to be my friend.

In 1994 I went to a small technical school and studied electronic engineering. After a few months I got a job at a local computer company and I hated it! I was fired from the job and I was thankful. I worked for my parents for a year. In 1996 I went to Mexico and stayed there for six months. During this time, I came the closest to getting baptized. I meet several brothers who actually cared about me. I had a great time while I was there, but I finally left, because I missed my family.

After this I bummed around for about a year and a half. I was still working for my Dad. I started working out and I lost about fifty pounds. However I was still miserable.

I went back to Mexico in the fall of 1998. I got a job as a waiter and I started going to school over there. Later an English congregation started and I was happy to be a part of it. However, I never felt comfortable going out on service. I felt so guilty. I began to feel more independent, but I still was still attending meetings. I never got along with anyone at the Kingdom Hall. I remember that this sister came from England. I trying talking to her once, but man did this chick hate me! She was the biggest snob I have ever meet in my life! After her I gave up trying to make any Witness friends. Depressed, I gave up my job and school and came back to the States in the summer of 2000. I stopped going to the meetings regularly. When I came back I got a job as a courier. It was a really cool job. It was just me driving my car and delivering packages. I still attending the meetings, but I was feeling worse and worse everyday. Finally last March during the middle of a meeting I got up and left. As I drove home, I was sad and angry. All the anger that I had inside me started coming out. When my mother and sister came back from the meeting, I told them that I had no desire to attend the meetings anymore. I told them that I was going to take some time off. They were against this, of course, but told me I could do what I wanted.

The Aftermath

Since giving up on the JWs my life has never been better. None of the elders ever came to talk to me. (Thank God.) I also started going on the Internet and checking out several sites then were critical of the Witnesses. I discovered many things I didn’t know about; such as the blood issue, 1914, 1975, the truth about several of the Watchtower leaders, how Kingdom Halls protect molesters, and the backstabbing, manipulation, and hypocrisy. Once an elder came to my parent’s business and asked me I was still going to the meetings. I told him that I wasn’t. When he told me why, I told him because I did not agree with several of the Witnesses teachings. He then just nodded and left. In May I started seeing a psychiatrist. I learned that I suffered from anxiety. My doctor helped me to conquer these fears. I started taking dance classes and I started working out. Later I took a class to learn Portuguese. I meet a girl there named Janie. She is a really good friend to me. In September I moved out of my parent’s house and I moved in an apartment with my friend Eliud. I felt more freedom. Being on my own is great! In November I went to Las Vegas. It is the coolest place on earth! I just got a great job selling insurance and recently I lost me virginity. My mother told me yesterday if I was interested in going to the meeting again. Yeah right.

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I'm coming to Texas!!!

by closer2fine in

jw
friends

beware!!!

(teeeeeheeee) i'm coming for a visit the end of february.

i'll be in galveston (i know, too far for you guys) - but we needed a tx fix.

gilwarrior

Hello closer2fine. I live in Houston. (Only about 40 miles away.) How about we meet somewhere? It would be great if I meet someone who wrote on this board in person. I have never talked to a former JW in person. What do you say?

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When is the next Apostlefest

by gilwarrior in

jw
friends

i live in the houston area and i would like to know when the next apostlefest will be near my area.

it would be great to meet several of the people i have come to know on this board.

gilwarrior

I live in the Houston area and I would like to know when the next Apostlefest will be near my area. It would be great to meet several of the people I have come to know on this board.

another joke

by gilwarrior in

a farmer is sitting in front of his porch.

then this guy with two empty buckets walks twords him.

yesterday you were able to get butter from buttercups and the day before you got milk from milkweeds.

gilwarrior

A farmer is sitting in front of his porch. Then this guy with two empty buckets walks twords him.

Guy: "Excuse me sir. I happen to notice that you have some milkweeds in your lawn and I would like to know if I could get some milk out of the milkweeds."

Farmer: "I hate to tell you this buddy, but you can't get milk out of milkweeds."

G: "Of course you can sir. I have done it several times."

F: "OK, if you think that you can it then go right ahead."

The guy then goes to the area where the milkweeds are and comes out several minutes later with two buckets filled with milk. The farmer is shocked.

The next day the same farmer is sitting in front of his porch. Then the same guy from yesterday walks twords him with two empty buckets.

G: "Excuse me sir. I happen to notice that you have some buttercups in your lawn and I would like to know if I could get some butter out of the buttercups."

F: "I hate to tell you this buddy, but you can't get butter out of buttercups."

G: "Of course you can sir I have done it several times."

F: "OK, if you think that you can it then go right ahead."

The guy then goes to the area where the buttercups are and comes out with two buckets filled with butter. The farmer is shocked.

The next day the same farmer is sitting in front of his porch. Then the same guy from yesterday and the day before walks twords him with two empty buckets.

G: "Excuse me sir..."

F: "OK, now wait I minute. Yesterday you were able to get butter from buttercups and the day before you got milk from milkweeds. I don't know how you did it, but you did it. Now what could you possibly want today."

G: "Well sir I happen to notice you have several pussy willows in your lawn...."

F: "Wait...let me get my bucket."