Posts by fukitol

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Someone please tell me there is a JW Survivor help line

by WireRider in

who can jw survivors call for help?

experienced survivors?

anyone?

Cedars leaked letter requested to be taken down by WTBTS

by umbertoecho in

i don't know if this is already posted so sorry people if it is.

cedars site has had a request to take down the leaked letter regarding changes to the theocratic ministry school and other issues.. the reason given by wt is that it is a "copyright" issue.

of course this validates the letters authenticity even more.. have a good day or night people.

Cedars blog is fantastic. Subscribing to it gives you all the latest developments and newsworthy information about the organization you need without wasting countless hours of your life on this site where 90% of new threads are just so much whimsical, trivial fluff that disappear as soon as they're started.

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where shall we go

by Sabin in

yesterday i read something that hurt my heart.

at a talk given by a brother lyman swingle ( i apologize if i am stepping out of line by using this) he said "that if you leave the jw ( i find it difficult to refer to it as the truth now days) you may as well go jump off a bridge".

this i think is disgraceful talk to say to any body let alone an audience in which children are present.

fukitol

You shouldn't hang off every word of old dead cult leaders. Try to learn not to give a fu#k more, you'll feel heaps better.

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How accurate is the Bible?

by WireRider in

how accurate is the bible?

the "compiled" version (council of nicaea) was not established for hundreds, or even thousands, of years after events happened.

stories were handed down generation to generation to generation before being written down.

fukitol

Lol at WTwizard. He's swapped belief in the Bible for some gibberish numerology.

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Any thoughts on the real reasons for droppng the 'school"

by sparrowdown in

jw
friends

my thoughts are.

1. they want to avoid being made to comply with any laws that come with anything classed as a "school" especially a school with children enrolled.. 2. the mid-week meeting has been dying in the ass for years and needs a revival.

i predict happy -clappy-sing-a-longs to be included in the program.. anyone else have any thoughts ??

fukitol

I'd like someone to post all the printed reasons given over the decades for why the theocratic misery school was so important. Then think about why that is now discarded.

The main justification was to train brothers to become good public speakers, like your local toastmasters club. It was meant to be an MS and elder producing factory.

But why continue to have a toastmasters style public speaker producing sausage factory when the number of public speakers needed will be drastically less when 50% of the kingdom halls are sold off and congregations will be combined with meetings held in bigger facilities (many more meetings will be in RENTED facilities like school halls, assemblies style - you heard it first from me)? And when talks will increasingly be by TV link up.

Anyway, the society knows that the best public speaking mostly comes naturally. It's a talent. You dont need to be 'schooled' in it (which all other churches know). You can learn the basics of confident public speaking in about 10 mins. There's loads of good tips instantly available online.

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Looking at the pics of Warwick... I'm chocked.

by StephaneLaliberte in

i am truly chocked and baffled by the number of volunteers they got for this project; especially in the states.

looking at one of their articles on the matter, they stated that a large portion of the printing work was delegated to other locations than ny, thus, they did not need as much space as they did in ny.

also, it was stated that operation cost in nyc were expensive.

fukitol

Yeah it's really CHOCKING how so many newbies on this site have the spelling skills of a 7 year old.

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What is going on

by Aleph in

first of all thank you for the nice welcoming messages i received !.

as you know they are reducing bethel families to the minimum, services etc...here s what i heard from 2 different sources (one from africa, one from europe).. - "official" reason given : "end is now, no more time to build, we all need to preach!"..

- all members are invited to go and support where the need is great in the congregations (not necessary their own), missionaries aren t sent back to their counties of origin.. - i have no info regarding huge kh building program...is it still on?

fukitol

Expenditure is exceeding income so they are slashing costs and trimming the fat.

Donations have suddenly plummeted due to a post-2014 "100 year's and still no great tribulation " disconfirmation effect, made worse by the GBs utterly delusional "overlapping generation " insult to JWs intelligence.

More and more JWs are punishing the Watchtower silently through their wallets.

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I went down in the first Round!

by John Aquila in

there is a visitor brother in town and from what ive been told, he has been a missionary for many years and they were having a get together for him.

i took my mom to that get-together yesterday and stayed for a few minutes.

i heard a group around a table with the visitor brother talking about how hard it was getting in the world with so many distractions and that many of the brothers were falling into the trap and leaving jehovahs organization.

fukitol

Obsessive compulsive new thread starting disorder.

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How accurate is the Bible?

by WireRider in

how accurate is the bible?

the "compiled" version (council of nicaea) was not established for hundreds, or even thousands, of years after events happened.

stories were handed down generation to generation to generation before being written down.

fukitol

I don't belive in any miracles or prophecies of the Bible, but there really is some completely inaccurate nonsense in the opening post.

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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

by LaurenM in

do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.