i wonder how the overlapping generation interpretation by the wt /jw religion applys to these scriptures reffering to a generation or these generations.. a generation reffering to one that the bible scriptures acknowledge is approximately 50 years in length give or take a few years.. mathtew chap 1:abraham born in 2018 , jesus born in 2 bc , =2016 divided by 42 generations as stated in matthew chapter 1 amounts to 43 years for a generation.. so how does an overlapping generation fit in with the wt interpretation with this scripture for a generation.?.
obviously an overlapping generation does not apply here .. so when does the jw/gb apply an overlapping generaration and when do they not apply an overlapping generation ?.
Quite simply: it does not apply.
It is a completely unscriptural perversion of the natural and obvious meaning of what Jesus said.
The Watchtower are despicable frauds who have willfully twisted Jesus words to fit their self-serving 1914 false doctrine.
And the deluded 8 million Watchtowerites who support and perpetuate this blatantly false creed simply have no common sense or love of truth, preferring unquestioned loyalty to the Watchtower idol than the words of Jesus.
any elder has never asked me that question so far but i want to be prepared to answer that question if any of them ask me that question in the future.
i hope that they will never ask me that question.
any suggestions on how to answer that question would be very much appreciated.
The best answer to this is to say that scripturally Jehovah only works through covenants and not with 'organisations' (not a scriptural term), and that often he has worked through single prophets when the covenantees have strayed, eg, the prophets sent to correct erring Israelites.
jesus taught a surviving generation, a group inhering everlasting life, an escape route to avoid a global disaster worse than the flood, a generation that "will not pass away--" an infinite generation.
wt teaches a generation that dies, ends, passes away, at the first sign of real trouble, the great tribulation.. what do you believe about this wt assertion?
(apart from that there is no talking snake, it is all irrelevant).
Who was Jesus speaking to?
A small group of disciples in 33AD.
When did the great tribulation occur back then? 70AD when the Romans sacked Jerusalem.
37 years later!
End of story!
Ps - Mark was written after 70AD, which the other two synoptic gospels embellish upon.
you dont have be alive to 2075 to prove that the wt's anointed generation is and will prove to be wrong, it is!
and you can do it now, by asking just one question:.
does the "generation" prophecy of math.
you dont have be alive to 2075 to prove that the wt's anointed generation is and will prove to be wrong, it is!
and you can do it now, by asking just one question:.
does the "generation" prophecy of math.
some facts that make the difference between you and me:.
1 - as a person raised by non jw family, my parents have never loved me based on conditions set out by a group of old men who they don't even know.
how does it feel to know that you are in the unique situation where your parents brought you into the world and said 'i'll show love to you.
Thank you for your very insightful opening post and for starting this thread.
I am a born-in and can relate personally and deeply to everything you say. It was like reading about my own childhood.
i wish i had read this back when i was 18. it's an amazing take down of religious beliefs, the bible, and religion in general.
) a "reason"-able manner.take this quote, from near the beginning:.
when also i am told that a woman, called the virgin mary, said, or gave out, that she was with child without any cohabitation with a man, and that her betrothed husband, joseph, said that an angel told him so, i have a right to believe them or not: such a circumstance required a much stronger evidence than their bare word for it: but we have not even this; for neither joseph nor mary wrote any such matter themselves.
Reading the writings of the great sceptics like Voltaire, Paine, and Ingersoll is the greatest cure to rid oneself of lifelong religious indoctrination. They are even more powerful in cleansing the mind of religious dogma and superstition than acceptance of evolution.
why didn't god also reveal himself to the canaanites just as he did to moses in the burning bush so that the massacre/genocide of the canaanites could have been avoided?.
why didn't god also invite the native palestinians into his covenant, giving them the same laws he gave the israelites, and establish an egalitarian society where people of all races could live together in harmony?.
instead, he ordered his people to invade and slaughter the natives, killing them to the last man, woman and child, specifically instructing them to show no mercy to anyone under any circumstances.
These are mostly true ancient accounts of ancient Jewish genocide and war crimes overlaid with pure myth invented by the Jewish priest class who said it was all done at Yahwehs order. How else to morally justify what is morally indefensible and proclaim divine right to stolen land. It's called divine command theory.
if god has a relationship with every christian and every christian is praying to him then wouldn't he tell every christian the same thing so that christians would agree on matters of doctrine and practice?.
it is certainly puzzling why sincere and devout people equally seek god's will and pray to him yet they all come up with different answers so that there are approximately 40,000 different christian denominations (center for the study of global christianity (csgc) at gordon-conwell theological seminary).. before his death, jesus called for agreement among his followers rather than division (john 17:20-21).
he declared that he would send the holy spirit to guide persons into all the truth (john 14:16 - 17, 26, john 15:26, john 16:7,13 - 15).. so shouldn't anyone who has a relationship with jesus, reads the bible, and listens to the holy spirit come to the same conclusions as others who are doing the same thing?.
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