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  Can A known Apostate enter A KH .

  by jam in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  lets say the people in my area know that i am a. apostate.

  i walk in, sit and i behave.

  after the meeting.

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  I started a thread a while back about someone who claims to have been kicked out of a Kingdom Hall for just saying he was a friend of mine.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/178930/1/Apparently-Im-a-feared-apostate
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  Random Questions

  by DT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just had some random thoughts and questions and decided it might be tiresome to start a different thread for each one, so i'm consolidating.. suppose someone had a sign showing a picture of a gun pointed at you and a caption saying "this shun gun is pointed at you.

  " then suppose this sign was shown to visiting jehovah's witnesses without saying a single word.

  how do you think they would react?.

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  If I had to choose a fast food restaurant to satisfy all my nutritional needs I would probably choose Mcdonalds. It's not anywhere close to my favorite fast food restaurant, but they tend to have more variety. Their salads and fruit smoothies aren't bad and would probably satisfy my requirements for fruits and vegetables. Their variety of coffees would help battle my loneliness. The rest of the stuff I could eat in moderation. If I bribed the manager with my unlimited credits, I might even be able to get him to serve items that are usuallly only served in certain countries like beer and pizza.
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  Random Questions

  by DT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just had some random thoughts and questions and decided it might be tiresome to start a different thread for each one, so i'm consolidating.. suppose someone had a sign showing a picture of a gun pointed at you and a caption saying "this shun gun is pointed at you.

  " then suppose this sign was shown to visiting jehovah's witnesses without saying a single word.

  how do you think they would react?.

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  "I hate chicken salad sandwiches. I only like chicken salad on lettuce."

  Would that make it a chicken salad salad?
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  Random Questions

  by DT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just had some random thoughts and questions and decided it might be tiresome to start a different thread for each one, so i'm consolidating.. suppose someone had a sign showing a picture of a gun pointed at you and a caption saying "this shun gun is pointed at you.

  " then suppose this sign was shown to visiting jehovah's witnesses without saying a single word.

  how do you think they would react?.

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  DT

  I just had some random thoughts and questions and decided it might be tiresome to start a different thread for each one, so I'm consolidating.

  Suppose someone had a sign showing a picture of a gun pointed at you and a caption saying "This shun gun is pointed at you." Then suppose this sign was shown to visiting Jehovah's Witnesses without saying a single word. How do you think they would react?

  How do Jehovah's Witnesses in your area deal with locked apartment buildings? I remember when I was still in, they would just skip them and say that someone writes to them. Are there actually Witnesses writing to these people on a regular basis? I've been in an apartment for years and have never received a letter or a visit. Could it be that Jehovah's Witnesses are failing to deliver the "good news" in even countries like the United States where they have a lot of members?

  If the entire Governing Body was removed and disfellowshipped and started their own religion, but without the enormous assets of the Watchtower Society, how many Witnesses do you think would follow them? What if they were able to get some of the assets, including the name Jehovah's Witnesses and the right to publish the Watchtower?

  Who else hates chicken salad sandwiches?

  Can anyone come up with a simple definition of the Trinity?

  If you were stranded on a desert island and could only have one movie, book and cd, what would be your choices?

  If that island had no food, but if you could have unlimited credit at a fast food restaurant of your choice to be built on the island, which restaurant would you choose?

  Who else has some random questions or thoughts?
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  Ridiculous Memorial Invitation!

  by PrincessCynic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone seen this year's memorial invitation?

  maybe someone could post a picture.. on the front is a question to the householder, 'how do you view jesus?'.

  then it gives multiple choices with accompanying pictues: .

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  DT

  One has to marvel at the level of arrogance and stupidity that makes this kind of blunder possible. If I were still a Jehovah's Witness, I would be too embarrassed to show that invitation to the public.
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  Will The Watchtower Society Continue To Comply With The Working With Children Act?

  by DT in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm hoping that this thread can address the current situation in australia without being derailed by debate about steven unthank and any errors of judgement that he may have committed.

  i'm not saying that debate isn't needed or appropriate.

  it's just that there are already enough other threads handling that subject.. the crown has implied that they are unwilling to enforce the working with children act.

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  Another bump
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  Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses to Escape Judgment for Crimes Against the Children?

  by 3Mozzies in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  from jw newshttp://jwnewsnetwork.wordpress.com/2012/02/20/governing-body-of-jehovahs-witnesses-to-escape-judgment-for-crimes/.

  governing body of jehovahs witnesses to escape judgment for crimes against the children?february 20, 2012 .

  corporate accused: watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, inc.. case no.

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  ABibleStudent,

  Thank you for sending those emails. I think the public deserves answers about how this case was handled by the prosecuter. The way that he took over the cases to discontinue them with almost no warning sure seems cowardly. I would be happy to hear his public comments if I'm mistaken in how I view the situation.
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  Will The Watchtower Society Continue To Comply With The Working With Children Act?

  by DT in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm hoping that this thread can address the current situation in australia without being derailed by debate about steven unthank and any errors of judgement that he may have committed.

  i'm not saying that debate isn't needed or appropriate.

  it's just that there are already enough other threads handling that subject.. the crown has implied that they are unwilling to enforce the working with children act.

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  Will The Watchtower Society Continue To Comply With The Working With Children Act?

  by DT in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm hoping that this thread can address the current situation in australia without being derailed by debate about steven unthank and any errors of judgement that he may have committed.

  i'm not saying that debate isn't needed or appropriate.

  it's just that there are already enough other threads handling that subject.. the crown has implied that they are unwilling to enforce the working with children act.

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  There is also the question of whether individual elders could be prosecuted for failing to comply with the act, since they were left out of the cases that the crown dismissed. I'm sure it would be much easier to prosecute individuals than giant corporations. It would be helpful for there to be a public record that crimes were committed, especially if there are future lawsuits.

  It's not the ideal way to handle this. I'm sympathetic towards at least some of the elders who are bying used and abused by the Watchtower Society, but I'm even more sympathic towards the innocent child victims.
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  Will The Watchtower Society Continue To Comply With The Working With Children Act?

  by DT in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm hoping that this thread can address the current situation in australia without being derailed by debate about steven unthank and any errors of judgement that he may have committed.

  i'm not saying that debate isn't needed or appropriate.

  it's just that there are already enough other threads handling that subject.. the crown has implied that they are unwilling to enforce the working with children act.

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  I'm hoping that this thread can address the current situation in Australia without being derailed by debate about Steven Unthank and any errors of judgement that he may have committed. I'm not saying that debate isn't needed or appropriate. It's just that there are already enough other threads handling that subject.

  The Crown has implied that they are unwilling to enforce the Working With Children Act. What would prevent the Watchtower Society from refusing to comply again now that the cases have been dismissed? Why couldn't they just revert to their previous position that the act doesn't apply to them? There hasn't been a court decision that says otherwise.

  I think it's likely that the Watchtower Society gave the Crown assurances that they would continue to comply. However, there doesn't appear to be any legally binding agreement to that effect. If I understand things correctly, any agreement between the Crown and the Watchtower Society would have had to either involve Steven Unthank or taken place after the Crown took the case. It doesn't appear that this has happened.

  However, I think it is likely that the Watchtower Society will continue to comply with the act. I think they may have learned their lesson. It also might not too difficult to continue to comply now that they have taken the step of getting the background checks for their elders. It wouldn't be too difficult to just get new background checks for newly appointed elders.

  Still, it doesn't pay to underestimate the arrogance of the Watchtower Society. It's certainly possible that they could refuse to fully comply in the future or handle the background checks that suggest possible problems in an inappropriate manner.

  We should also consider the possibility of future lawsuits that are at least partly based on the fact that the Watchtower Society has failed to comply with that act for several years. If people start suing the Watchtower Society for their criminal negligence, then this story could be far from over.

  I understand that the Crown probably just wanted current compliance and was unwilling to engage in a lengthy legal battle to inflict penalties on past transgressions. Still, it's a shame that they didn't at least try for some kind of plea bargain that would ensure future compliance and acknowledge past crimes with at least a token fine.

  They also seemed to ignore the fact that children have been greatly harmed by the Watchtower Society's criminal actions. The Crown failed to even make it look like they were trying to protect them.

  The Crown may have failed, but there is still the court of public opinion and the possibility of costly litigation.

  I welcome your comments.