It sounds like this "secret" group has over a thousand members and every one of those members can see who is in the group, even though some were added without their knowledge. This is still an unacceptable risk. If it can't be fixed, then it should be shut down and started fresh. I assume you can start a secret group that has to manually approve new members. That may be the only way to avoid this problem.
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447Problems with the "Bogus AWAA Fan Page"..
by OUTLAW ingood afternoon jwn... .
i`ve spent the morning and part of my afternoon... getting to the bottom of... why names were added to the awaa fan page... it`s a dangerous thing to happen in our world... faders can be outed,we can lose,family,friends... the results can be an absolute disaster... .
aawa "did not" create the facebook awaa fan page.
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How many light bulbs does it take to change a Jehovah's Witness?
by DT injust one, all you have to do is turn it on and he will instantly adjust to the new light..
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DT
Just one, all you have to do is turn it on and he will instantly adjust to the new light.
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Will AAWA Become another cult?
by His Excellency inplease sorry for english, i have only been learning for 18 months.
everyone please think about it, and beware of any initiative designed to solve "a community problem".
becasue russel also started his own cult on a similar premise like this , claiming to have all the answers to issues whose solutions seems obscured to the majority in his days, and here we are today, constantly bashing our fingers on the keyboard in a bid to finding comfort from the mess he had put all of us into.
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DT
I think any organization has the potential to develop cult like characteristics.
I don't think the danger is very high for the AAWA, but it is worth discussing and it pays to be cautious. I think that the AAWA has already taken some positive steps like being unwilling to advocate a particular religion or philosophy.
I think part of the danger comes from the XJW community itself. There has been considerable support for the goals of the AAWA, but a lot of disappointment with some minor details like the name. I think there has been a tendency to look at the AAWA as a kind of champion of the XJW community that will engage in some kind of epic battle with the Watchtower Society that XJW's as a whole can support.
I don't think that is a reasonable expectation. I can't speak for the AAWA, but I would be surprised if they viewed themselves that way. They are an organization that was formed by a specific group of people for a specific purpose. I think their name describes their purpose (as I understand it) almost perfectly. I'm glad that they haven't succumbed to public pressure to change their name and focus to something that might receive broader support while possibly diluting its effectiveness.
I think we would be wise to view the AAWA as simply a tool. It fills a need. It's name clearly defines what it is about and it will hopefully be a useful contact for journalists. It is may also provide some much needed organization for activities that raise awareness.
It also fails to fill certain needs that many XJW's have. I suggest that some of those needs would be better served in ways that don't involve looking to an organization.
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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
http://www.jwactivists.org.
facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.
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DT
I think it is incredibly valuable for any journalist who is writing a story about the Watchtower Society to be able to consult and quote an organization that is obviously opposed to the methods of the Watchtower Society. We haven't had that until now and that has probably prevented certain news stories from getting the attention they deserve.
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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
http://www.jwactivists.org.
facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.
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DT
"I'm a firm believer that once a decision is voted on, we stick to it."
I think that is one of the things that can make this group effective. I have seen all sorts of great ideas on this board fail to get any traction because of bickering and disagreements about how to proceed. A small group can be far more effective in getting things started. Then others can choose to help if they wish.
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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
http://www.jwactivists.org.
facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.
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DT
There sure has been a lot of debate about the name. I think that is a sign that it is effective.
I think there is a need for a vocal anti Watchtower group as well as a need for other groups that are more moderate. Instead of asking if it's the right name for the group, maybe we should ask if it's the right group for the name. I think we have a winning combination. The group is willing to take a powerful stand, but it's clear that they are against the ruling structure, not the religion or the people.
If someone wants a different name, there isn't anything to stop them from forming a different group. In fact, the name of this group suggests that they are willing to coordinate their efforts with other groups and organizations.
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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
http://www.jwactivists.org.
facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.
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DT
I think the name is good. It is a little bit provocative and may capture the attention of the media in situations where a more subdued name would just be ignored.
I think it may require some explaining, but it is better to have to explain the goals of the association than to have it overlooked.
I definitely the Watchtower Corporation is evil enough to deserve an anti group.
I do think the name could be a liability for some forms of activism, but this association doesn't have to tackle everything. There is plenty of room for other groups to form with slightly different goals that could adopt more friendly names.
Although I also like Stonewall's suggestion of "Association Against Watchtower Abuse".
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DT
Ray makes a good point.
"Bibliophile" would be a good term for someone who loves his Bible a little too much.
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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
http://www.jwactivists.org.
facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.
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DT
AAWA could also stand for the Association for the Advancement of Watchtower Apostates.
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Are The Governing Body Being Set Up To Take A Fall?
by DT inthe governing body's decision to declare themselves the faithful and discreet slave appears pretty arrogant and presumptuous.
since most of us regard the governing body as arrogant and presumptuous, it's easy to conclude that is the reason that they did this.. what if something else is going on?.
remember when steven unthank was able to get the faithful and discreet slave charged in australia for failing to comply with the working with children act?
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DT
I'm just bumping this because of the leak of the Watchtower articles about the new FDS understanding.