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  I have a theory. Please take my poll!

  by changeling in

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  i'd like you all to tell me 2 or 3 things:.

  1- were you raised a witness or not?.

  2-if you were, was your family very "theocratic" or not so much?.

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  1)Partially...spent(wasted) my whole teenhood there,pre-13yrs old attended no religion

  2)Not overly,i did a LOT of personal study on my own,as well as study/debate with my friend

  3)Agnostic Theist
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  Great Film Lines !!!

  by cluless in

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  from throw a long rope .. ....if its black white ..right wrong or something in between if theres a wrong you fight it.

  if you dont you become a part of it.. that aint so hard to figure is it?.

  any great lines fom films come to anybodys mind?.

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  "When I get you down friend...you gonna need a ladder to get up again" Tuco from "The Good,The Bad,The Ugly"

  "I'm not going there to die...I'm going there to find out if I'm really alive"-Spike Speigel from The Finale of "Cowboy Bebop"

  "God's in his Heaven..All's right with the world"-The slogan for NERV from"Neon Genesis Evangelion",derived from a poem by Robert Browning
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  Something(s) I always wondered about...

  by KenseiShimonzu in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  was,if jehovah was going to bring about armegeddon to destroy the "wicked"humans who may live an average of 75 yrs +/-,who may not even know of him in their lifetime..why would he allow satan,who was directly associated with him,to exist for as long as he has?..seems to me,it would have been an instantaneous destruction because he already knew better..it would have been worse than blasphemy.. he even allowed him complete control over the earth to do as he wishes...also,if he isn't destroyed at some point,how would humans know?

  no human can see spirit creatures..therefore there could be no proof that he didn't exist anymore(i.e a body).

  another thing that has always bugged me about that whole scenario..why would "jehovah" the supreme creator,have the need to justify his right to rule,to a lesser spirit creature that he created...i liken it to a son telling his father that he knows better than the father about how the household should be run....sort of a moot point.

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  I agree,as far as explanations go..J's was about the best i've seen thus far too,it was a lot more detailed than the WTSDrones at the hall could/would give i'd say that much.
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  Have a sense of humour - giggling.

  by whyamihere in

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  so i was at the gym today(as always) speaking to the super moms(lol).

  they were all talking about nutrition and the value of a sensible diet.

  then they asked me what i consume daily, as i was going to give them thee ideal lie of what i "should" eat hence the word "eat" - i said this: my daily food groups include: coffee cigarettes, vodka and the morning after pill.. silence among the mini van driving crowd.. then i laughed and walked away fully knowing i will not be getting an invite to their next tupperware party - oh darn it all to heck.. people need to lighten up and take a joke, i still think it was funny!.

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  LMFAO you guys are a riot!...whyamihere:"No, but I want to know if they can find out the color of the baby before my husband does.".....pricless!LOL
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  Have a sense of humour - giggling.

  by whyamihere in

  1. social
  2. humour

  so i was at the gym today(as always) speaking to the super moms(lol).

  they were all talking about nutrition and the value of a sensible diet.

  then they asked me what i consume daily, as i was going to give them thee ideal lie of what i "should" eat hence the word "eat" - i said this: my daily food groups include: coffee cigarettes, vodka and the morning after pill.. silence among the mini van driving crowd.. then i laughed and walked away fully knowing i will not be getting an invite to their next tupperware party - oh darn it all to heck.. people need to lighten up and take a joke, i still think it was funny!.

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  Something(s) I always wondered about...

  by KenseiShimonzu in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  was,if jehovah was going to bring about armegeddon to destroy the "wicked"humans who may live an average of 75 yrs +/-,who may not even know of him in their lifetime..why would he allow satan,who was directly associated with him,to exist for as long as he has?..seems to me,it would have been an instantaneous destruction because he already knew better..it would have been worse than blasphemy.. he even allowed him complete control over the earth to do as he wishes...also,if he isn't destroyed at some point,how would humans know?

  no human can see spirit creatures..therefore there could be no proof that he didn't exist anymore(i.e a body).

  another thing that has always bugged me about that whole scenario..why would "jehovah" the supreme creator,have the need to justify his right to rule,to a lesser spirit creature that he created...i liken it to a son telling his father that he knows better than the father about how the household should be run....sort of a moot point.

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  Hey Steve,I just read through some of the post from that thread,and I can see what J's thought process is on the matter,however..The only thing i say about "free will"and the CHOICE as he put it is,there is no alternative to what Jeh says do,which is the"right"thing to do. The choices are right=everlasting life,wrong=short life,then death so with that in mind,can it REALLY be said that free will exist?

  If either decision led to an everlasting life,which would most choose? The same as with serving Jeh...if it was announced that EVERYONE would get everlasting life,regardless of whether they served Jeh or not,how many would continue to do so,after the threat of death was removed?

  Doing things the way Awakened07 mentioned in his last post,would be the only way free will could reasonably be instituted IMO,because you can make a decision,but either way you will live forever SOMEWHERE even if separated from ones who've made a different decision from yours.

  Then,when people who made the decision to do bad,got tired of all the wickedness and learned their lesson about why they should want to do the right thing,they could choose to give up their immortality,and die for their sins,and be resurrected to the paradise on a trial basis till they've proven themselves,wherein they'd get everlasting life there too
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  Something(s) I always wondered about...

  by KenseiShimonzu in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  was,if jehovah was going to bring about armegeddon to destroy the "wicked"humans who may live an average of 75 yrs +/-,who may not even know of him in their lifetime..why would he allow satan,who was directly associated with him,to exist for as long as he has?..seems to me,it would have been an instantaneous destruction because he already knew better..it would have been worse than blasphemy.. he even allowed him complete control over the earth to do as he wishes...also,if he isn't destroyed at some point,how would humans know?

  no human can see spirit creatures..therefore there could be no proof that he didn't exist anymore(i.e a body).

  another thing that has always bugged me about that whole scenario..why would "jehovah" the supreme creator,have the need to justify his right to rule,to a lesser spirit creature that he created...i liken it to a son telling his father that he knows better than the father about how the household should be run....sort of a moot point.

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  KenseiShimonzu

  Thanks for the welcome Awakened07,Lmao,i like the smoking kid analogy.."one wants to do it,so i'm gonna make you all do it so you'll all learn why it's bad at the same time",lol....but yeah,they told me that explanation before too..however,i asked them "but you say that Jehovah is all powerful so he can do ANYTHING right? well...he could have just as easily done away with them,and STILL erased the memory of them from the other angels minds..so as far as they would know,the A&E they knew,would have been the first ones created,and they would have no memory at all of Satan or who he was before he was labeled Satan. After which only he would know what happened beforehand,but because he's omnipotent,he would have known it was for the best,that it was the loving merciful thing to do..

  Einstein was right...but they don't "cotton" to that type of thing down there...that's "goat"talk,lmao..you don't ask questions...they give you the answers to the questions they're prepared to answer,the questions you should have..when they're taking "freestyle" questions..they'll let you know:P
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  Somebody hurt my baby! :S

  by Elsewhere in

  1. jw
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  once again someone hurt nancy, my little mini cooper.

  this time they popped the front driver side window, broke it all out, stole my tomtom gps, ripped apart the center console and tore up the 12 volt plug while ripping the gps power cable out.

  the police came out and did the whole fingerprint thing and got a few bits and pieces of some prints, but we won't know if anything will come of it.

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  I think they could garnish any wages,or payments he might receive,as with any judgment,though..not quite sure how to make that happen though,i thought most times it's court ordered by the presiding judge,and not extinguished till you've been paid off.-KenShim
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  Something(s) I always wondered about...

  by KenseiShimonzu in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  was,if jehovah was going to bring about armegeddon to destroy the "wicked"humans who may live an average of 75 yrs +/-,who may not even know of him in their lifetime..why would he allow satan,who was directly associated with him,to exist for as long as he has?..seems to me,it would have been an instantaneous destruction because he already knew better..it would have been worse than blasphemy.. he even allowed him complete control over the earth to do as he wishes...also,if he isn't destroyed at some point,how would humans know?

  no human can see spirit creatures..therefore there could be no proof that he didn't exist anymore(i.e a body).

  another thing that has always bugged me about that whole scenario..why would "jehovah" the supreme creator,have the need to justify his right to rule,to a lesser spirit creature that he created...i liken it to a son telling his father that he knows better than the father about how the household should be run....sort of a moot point.

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  Was,if Jehovah was going to bring about Armegeddon to destroy the "wicked"humans who may live an average of 75 yrs +/-,who may not even know of him in their lifetime..why would he allow Satan,who was directly associated with him,to exist for as long as he has?..seems to me,it would have been an instantaneous destruction because he already KNEW better..it would have been worse than blasphemy.

  He even allowed him complete control over the Earth to do as he wishes...also,if he isn't destroyed at some point,how would humans know? No human can see spirit creatures..therefore there could be no proof that he didn't exist anymore(i.e a body). Another thing that has always bugged me about that whole scenario..why would "Jehovah" the Supreme Creator,have the need to justify his right to rule,to a lesser spirit creature that HE created...i liken it to a son telling his father that he knows better than the father about how the household should be run....sort of a moot point

  Also,if Jehovah is omnipotent,and knew all of what was going to be happening in our times...why didn't he just destroy "Adam and Eve" at the Garden of Eden since they supposedly were the first,and ONLY ones to sin firsthand? Why would he let the world get fully populated just to destroy everyone later after they've been left to their own devices for so long? I know about the "letting man prove to himself that he doesn't have the right to rule over himself"thing,but that goes back to same point about the creator having to debate his authority with his creation

  It would seem to me,that it would have been easier to destroy A&E AND Satan,then create a new A&E and wipe even the memory of them from the other angels mind so as there would be no questions about it

  Also,why was "free will"such a big deal?...if Angels didn't have free will,how did Satan decide to do what he did? Or was he just following orders he was given? How did,some Angels decide to come down and create bodies,and do the whole "Nephilim"thing if they had no free will?

  Also,if all the "evil" in the world is destroyed..how would something be classified as"good"..what is the polar opposite of "good"?

  Just some things i always wondered about.....
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  What JW Beliefs Did You...

  by Abandoned in

  1. watchtower
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  what jw beliefs did you make up for your own sanity?.

  for me it was regarding the flood.

  instead of believing that god had destroyed millions of people, i imagined that because of all the violence, by the time the flood came, the only people besides noah and his family that were still alive were the nephilim.

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  I always personally believed that even if Armegeddon did come,and all the "wicked" were destroyed,they'd just be resurrected along with everybody else who died. Reason being,they would have died for their sins,therefore they would have a clean slate to start from. I often used to ask various ones in there.."would if Hitler got resurrected in "The New System"...would that stumble you? or would you be able to accept J's decision to do so without questioning it?"

  And as far as destruction at Armegeddon was concerned,I also kinda believed that it wouldn't be a selective thing like Dubs think it will be....if it did happen,then EVERYBODY would go down for the wrong they've done..."and thus death spread to all men,for they had all sinned"..then EVERYBODY would get a resurrection,and that nice perfect body they always brag about getting,could be made from scratch...along with everyone else's...