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I was told I sound like an Apostate

by senora in

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so i'm in the process of ditching my jw friends and one of them tells me that i'm starting to sound like an apostate why??

because i'm going to yet another congregation and she feels that i should stay in one cogo to get established.

first of all i'm about to go into a foreign language congo wherein i speak half the language and want to be fluent in that language, but my real reason is....i don't want friends and family finding out about my fade so they won't start calling me and bugging me.

senora

oh really "stil_in74"?? and why is that? does it sound impossible? maybe because you are a male.

why on earth would anyone lie about a horrible thing like that? could a thing like that never happen in jehovah's organization?? especially so often?? Its happening to so many single sisters, its unbelievable. and really, i don't care what you think, I think its terrible for you to question what someone says on this board as to the reliability. you are actually calling me a liar and I don't appreciate it because its the absolute truth.

you make me want to puke.

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I was told I sound like an Apostate

by senora in

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so i'm in the process of ditching my jw friends and one of them tells me that i'm starting to sound like an apostate why??

because i'm going to yet another congregation and she feels that i should stay in one cogo to get established.

first of all i'm about to go into a foreign language congo wherein i speak half the language and want to be fluent in that language, but my real reason is....i don't want friends and family finding out about my fade so they won't start calling me and bugging me.

senora

Yes, I do think they want to monitor me. I use to be in her congo (and yes, I think she is off mentally), now I'm 2 congo's down the road and she did say she had just spoken to an elder. so I'm sure my name was brought up because he's friends with an elder in the congo I recently left they are probably talking so that they can keep tabs on me in my new hall wherein I just told the secretary that I've decided to go to the foreign language. So it seems they are trying to keep tabs on me and are having difficulty doing it because I keep moving around. which of course i'm doing on purpose to get these monkey's off my back. and now that i'm going to foreign language, its going to be impossible to keep a hold on me.

I hope you understand all of this. I am really going through some nonsense that I can't even explain. I'm dealing with bros who want to get me real bad, they really don't like me. I guess the core of the problem is... I am non compliant and therefore am viewed as a rebel because I don't let anyone control my life or tell me what to do. especially when they take liberties that infringe on my freedom as a human being and is not in the bible. I don't let people in my business either, nor am I a brown noser to the high n mighty ones, therefore I'm considered a naughty, naughty girl, who must be watched very closely.

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E-mailed legal theats (re: V's Watchtower Comments videos)

by B_Deserter in

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i just did some searching and found one thing about cease-and-desist letters.

basically, they're not legally binding, but a threat of legal action.

now, for e-mail, the source of the message can be easily manipulated and falsified.

senora

Which is why I would find out if the e-mail is for a fact sent from the Knocking guys. And then, me personally, I would have a consultation with a litigation attorney who deals with patents and copyright law and find out what the deal is. You could do the researc on the internet. If it is from the knocking guys (which would be the first priority of business for me) fine take it off but if not, hey, just hang out for a minute and see what happens, don't worry, its not like you'd have to pay a fine or anything.

I just wouldn't jump right now. I would hang out for a minute and not worry about it. I would wait for the very last minute. I know a lot about law. Now, if there is a chance youtube would thow you off the site forever well make that move but if there's no chance not being banned foever, well, don't worry. Come on, don't let them scare you. really. just do your homework.

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I was told I sound like an Apostate

by senora in

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so i'm in the process of ditching my jw friends and one of them tells me that i'm starting to sound like an apostate why??

because i'm going to yet another congregation and she feels that i should stay in one cogo to get established.

first of all i'm about to go into a foreign language congo wherein i speak half the language and want to be fluent in that language, but my real reason is....i don't want friends and family finding out about my fade so they won't start calling me and bugging me.

senora

So I'm in the process of ditching my JW friends and one of them tells me that I'm starting to sound like an apostate Why?? because I'm going to yet another congregation and she feels that i should stay in one cogo to get established.

first of all I'm about to go into a foreign language congo wherein I speak half the language and want to be fluent in that language, but my real reason is....I don't want friends and family finding out about my fade so they won't start calling me and bugging me. The foreign lingo congo doesn't know english and english doesn't know them plus I moved to a new area, so, I've got it all under control. But in her eyes i'm just bouncing around, which really nothing is wrong with that.

and I was telling her that I can do what I want. I can go to whatever hall I want, when I want and there's nothing wrong with it. Does the bible say that I have to be established in a congo or does it say, just endure to the end? That was my response. Well she didn't like what I was saying. She said I have independant thinking and that's how apostates get started. of course I used that as an excuse to never be her friend again, because how dare she call me such a wretched thing? I asked her to show me in the bible where I have to stay in one congo my whole life. then I told her that I go to different congo's because I keep moving. (of course the truth is that these friends are crazy and I keep running into sexual harassment problems, I've been propositioned by 5 different elders) (no joke) I need to move to better neighborhoods (is what I told her). then she says I'm suppose to stay in one neighborhood, the end is coming so I should'nt be seeking great things for myself. is she ignorant or what?? I was like you are pathetic honey. Just because I don't want to live in the projects for the rest of my life waiting for armageddon doesn't mean i'm a bad materialistic person. She totally couldn't understanding me wanting to live in a better neighborhood. Well I gave her a peice of my mind. I told her that she can sit up in the hood thinking about the big A all she wants with her apathetic hoodlums, but not me sugar plum, I'm moving on up and I don't care what anyone thinks. She is so angry that I wont let them control my mind nor my life. So all she could say was I sound like an apostate.

Well I dissolved our friendship because she said I have independant thinking that apostates have when they start out.. I'm so offended and can't be her friend anymore. Good riddence.

So I'm doing my best to get rid of these people out of my life I should be fully faded by the summer, can't wait.

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E-mailed legal theats (re: V's Watchtower Comments videos)

by B_Deserter in

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i just did some searching and found one thing about cease-and-desist letters.

basically, they're not legally binding, but a threat of legal action.

now, for e-mail, the source of the message can be easily manipulated and falsified.

senora

I so agree with this guy Desenter. .

Anyway, don't be intimidated please. They know jw's are not educated and are big kiss butt scardy cats. Now, maybe they can get in touch with youtube. I'm not sure about that. But... first of all, the knocking guys I'm sure are NOT the ones behind this. The SOCIETY is.

Now personally if I were this guy from knocking, I couldn't care less about the 3 second thingy. I'm sure its the society doing this on behalf of the knocking guy, who I'm sure by now is offended that the Society doesn't like gays and therefore, has changed their perception of the WTS. I think this is a bullying tactic by the WTS. Why?

Well, I so happens that I know, from an inside source, that the WTS is on a mission to find copyright infringement people on the internet. I so happen to know this crazy sister who has nothing to do but google and surf the net for copywrite infringment sites and blogs and then guess what??? She sends them to the Society via e-mail and she tries to act like she's their lawyer. She kills me. What a poor sad mentally disturbed sis with no life who needs a man desperately. Anyway, that's another thread.

IMO, they are trying to intimidate everyone on the net to get the negative stuff off the web because they don't want anyone to see them being exposed so perfectly and eloquently. But I don't think they can speak on behalf of the Knocking guy. I would make sure that if they do get in touch with youtube or you, make sure it is in fact from knocking and not from the society. I don't think the knocking guy is with this. Sorry, but I don't. Really, the knocking guys just want to make a buck and do a good video for exposure to get a great film deal to get their foot in the door. Its not like the knocking guy became a JW after this experience. HELLO!!! Trust me, he got a real education from the xJW's. Like the WT Comments said.....READ BETWEEN THE LINES. LOL Personally, when I read the first thread on this subject over the weekend or was it last week, I personally thought this is not knocking, this is the WTS. Of course, the WTS has the lawyers, but the knocking guy doesn't. Do you really think he's working along with the GB?? Would the GB support or deal with a real live homosexual??? HECK TO THE NO!!! I would make sure that the email is in fact from knocking and and that knocking is in agreement with the warning email, or you could get in touch with the Knocking guy and ask him if the e-mail was from him.

But be warned the WTS is in a war with the internet, this is a mission that can cause their demise. but I say, don't let them scare you, really don't. Its just Philistine taunts. LOL

I love the WT comments, please keep them coming and even if you do have to change the 3 second part, so the heck what, you are helping so many people with the WT comments. I just can't wait for the next one, its the highlight of my life right now. Also, its great and you most certainly have their wrapt attention because you are showing them up to be the hypocrites that they trylyt are, you are brilliant. May the force continue to be with you to expose the false hypocrites. You're doing an excellent job. They can't get over the fact that they have gone through all of this trouble to just get the study article to only JW's and you still have access to their deceit and can still expose them. They are pissed to the extreme. The are probably having GB meetings over these WT comments. LOL The last WT comment was excellent about depression. You are doing a great job at exposing the wolves. With all sincerety, thank you for your hard work. N, Keep them commin baby!!!

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Is it allowed to make a "interested" unbaptised person an ATTENDANT?

by BBOARD in

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i am simply asking a question.

calling all ex-jw's in the know.

if a person has been coming to the meeting regularly and is on the tms can they, by the book, be made into a attendant without any declaration to "serve jehovah" aka baptism.

senora

I recall in your other post you said you were asked to be an attendant. Are you baptized? Because like everyone else said, yes you have to be baptized to have any priviledges in the congregation. Some elders will go against the guidelines and they are wrong if they do.

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I have just made ATTENDANT at Crenshaw Congregation

by BBOARD in

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in my hall (crenshaw congregation) virtually all the young men and women have left.

there is a extreme shortage of elders ... so i have just been made a kh attendant.

i will be assisting the backroom and in the parking lots (etc.).

senora

Did it ever occur to you that the Society is all over this site?? Talk about shoot yourself in the head. Hello, their 1st mission right now is to destroy all apostates on the internet, so trust me a site/forum like this one is a main priority for them, they probably have an 8th new committee, the INTERNET COMMITTEE, along with the writing, service and all those other committees.

Don't be surprised when you get that tap on your shoulder and escorted to the Dungon Room. You just delivered yourself to them on a silver platter. Talk about sacrificial lamb.

This is too funny but at the same time NOT. I guess you're nieve. If I were you I'd get outa dodge, heck, rat now!! LOL

Glad I'm not you. May Jah and all his holy leagions of angels be with you. Please keep us posted.

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The Future of the Watchtower Society and the Internet

by DT in

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it seems that the watchtower society was very ill prepared for the advent of the internet.

perhaps, some of the governing body thought the end would come before it became a big problem.

now it is a big problem and is only going to get worse.

senora

The internet got me out and its doing the same for many many others and the WT most certainly is feeling it. As I'm fading out, I find that they are sounding so desperate these days because they know they are in trouble. I am so greatful for the internet, it is truly heaven sent.

But I would like to add that they really have people scared of the internet. A JW friend emailed me and asks me about getting the study article off the internet. I told her to just google the study article and maybe it might come up and she was like "but I can't do that, what type of site will I stumble upon?" She was referring to an apostate site. Then I was like, 'well just have one of your friends pdf it to you.' I thought, wow, it was crazy that she was so scared to google anything pertaining to the WT on the internet. I thought, how retarded, she actually listens to that crap about not surfing the net. All I could think was unbelieveable, I've got to cut these robot people loose.

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I used to cut the Borg some slack...but 10 years out?...The BASTARDS!!!!

by Alpaca in

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i've been out for 10 1/2 years.. in the early days, after my departure, i was just glad to be out and going back to school.

i felt sorry for those who were still in living a life of delusion and failed/false dreams....and, in fact, i still do feel sorry for the r&f dubbies.

i used to even cut the borg's leadership some slack, thinking to myself that they were just caught up in their own delusions.. but, the longer i've been on jwd the madder i get at the borg leadership's outright deception, lies, coverups, and self-aggrandizing behavior.

senora

I used to even cut the Borg's leadership some slack, thinking to myself that they were just caught up in their own delusions.

I was just thinking that same thought a half hour ago. This is the first memorial I am missing since I'm in the process of fading.

I was thinking "are they (the borg leadership) really sincere but caught up in their own dissolusion? Maybe I shouldn't blame them. But you are right, and as I thought about it, they have everything so well thought out and orchestrated the same way with every elder body, congregation and situation (like pedophiles). They know how they want things handled and its handled according to borg guidelines. I'm sure they have seen the pain that they are causing people but they don't give 2 sh$ts whatsoever. They are like the Pharasis and that's what the real deal is.

The elders, which is the leadership in the congregation, absolutely do not care about the flock. That's why I admire Bowen and what he has done. They care about protecting the borg, as a corporation, Bowen didn't care and walked away from it all and didn't think twice and on top of that did the most corageos thing, like David against Goliath. I realize the borg leadership have no love for God/Jesus and shepherding the flock under any type of good care, their loyalty is to the GB and that is really really extremely sad. People go to them for everything, they really look up to these men but these men don't care about sheperding these people for anything having to do with God or love or sincere concern, but only for the concerns of the GB. Doesn't it bother these shepherds to know that they are not working for God? Do you mean to tell me that these Elders have no idea that the proceedures they are obligated to conduct for the GB is wrong? Are they dissolusioned or something? Or, do they know and just don't care? Why would they bother to be used to hurt people? They have the bible just like I do, and they can't see that they are doing things wrong in Gods eyes? They are on that platform constantly, what the heck is wrong with their brains?? If I were an elder I couln't do it. What kind of human beings are they? Are they cowards, are they ignorant, are they dissolusioned?? I don't get it. Its just sad.

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new brochure

by bonnzo in

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at tonights meeting a new brochure was released along with the question box in the km regarding how to dress when visiting bethel/branch homes.

they, of course, said to dress like you do at th meetings.

the brochure is 4 pages with color photo illustations of what not to wear and what is appropriate.

senora

So sad. Really, there should be nothing wrong with sisters wearing slacks to the dining room, they either have to work in a skirt or change clothes every day before eating. What if they are cleaning, or even working in the laundry?

Wear a skirt to breakfast, change out of the skirt after breakfast, change out of the pants for lunch into the skirt and then after lunch change back into the pants and for dinner change back into the skirt. COME ON PEOPLE!!! They just don't give you a break, they are seriously crackin the whip.