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Posts by cognac
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3Instead of Arguing/Debating or telling JWs that they aren't correct...
by cognac inwhy not put new information out there that they can accept and let them do what they want with it?
why not even defend and reason on what could later be justified in there own minds?.
that's what i've been doing with a lot of jws including hubby and it seems to have the greatest affect without them putting there defenses up.. for example, i said to hubby the other night regarding blood fractions: "i dare you to raise your hand and say: so, clearly, the symbol of life is much more important then life itself.
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Read My Dads Crazy Email Trying to Make me Panic bout Armageddon!!
by foolsparadise inmy mom emailed me and asked if they could come to town and go to our district convention with us.
i politley said no thank you we wont be attending.
we havent been to meeting in a long long time.
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cognac
I doubt we will be told to go hide in the mountains but somewhere in Jesus instructions there will be an order for us that the slave will discern and pass along to us just at the right moment.
I would have liked to say, "Yes Dad, but what if they tell us to all head to some place and then they get new light that that isn't the place to go after the big A already comes. So, instead, we all die and then we get screwed out of being able to get married in the new system. What then? I don't want to be in the new system if I can't be married. I think you stumbled me. You have 1 week to go to the elders about stumbling me or I will."
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THIS IS IT, THIS IS IT, THIS IS IT?!!!!
by Hikaru ingoogle alerts caught this.. http://nation.ittefaq.com/issues/2009/07/17/news0133.htm.
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summit ends with call for global peace .
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cognac
Poor thing... Maybe you should try talking it out as much as possible. Maybe it will help clear your head. PM me if you want to talk...
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THIS IS IT, THIS IS IT, THIS IS IT?!!!!
by Hikaru ingoogle alerts caught this.. http://nation.ittefaq.com/issues/2009/07/17/news0133.htm.
<quote>.
summit ends with call for global peace .
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cognac
1986 OR 87 was the year of peace. If that wasn't it, a don't think this is either...
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THIS IS IT, THIS IS IT, THIS IS IT?!!!!
by Hikaru ingoogle alerts caught this.. http://nation.ittefaq.com/issues/2009/07/17/news0133.htm.
<quote>.
summit ends with call for global peace .
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cognac
1986 OR 87 was the year of peace. If that wasn't it, I don't think this is either...
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Searching for Lost Friends...
by closer2fine incan anyone recommend an ex-jw web page to look for friends i've lost touch with over the years?
just in case some of them have also left the org.. thanks!
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cognac
Good question!
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Searching for Lost Friends...
by closer2fine incan anyone recommend an ex-jw web page to look for friends i've lost touch with over the years?
just in case some of them have also left the org.. thanks!
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cognac
Good question!
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Instead of Arguing/Debating or telling JWs that they aren't correct...
by cognac inwhy not put new information out there that they can accept and let them do what they want with it?
why not even defend and reason on what could later be justified in there own minds?.
that's what i've been doing with a lot of jws including hubby and it seems to have the greatest affect without them putting there defenses up.. for example, i said to hubby the other night regarding blood fractions: "i dare you to raise your hand and say: so, clearly, the symbol of life is much more important then life itself.
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cognac
Why not put new information out there that they can accept and let them do what they want with it? Why not even defend and reason on what could later be justified in there own minds?
That's what I've been doing with a lot of JWs including hubby and it seems to have the greatest affect without them putting there defenses up.
For example, I said to hubby the other night regarding blood fractions: "I dare you to raise your hand and say: So, clearly, the symbol of life is much more important then life itself." He wouldn't do it. Why? Cause something didn't seem right about that.
Another example: My mom said that now MJ has a chance at the resurrection. I said, "Well, it's a good thing he died then!" She fumbed over her words a bit but I bet she thought about it!
Hubby felt guilty about us fornicating before marriage. I showed him other bibles where it said that was ok as long as you get married. I showed him the scripture and said "Do what you want with this information." He very happily accepted that as truth.
The point being is to actually go along with what they say but at the same time giving them things to think about... I think this helps not to bring defenses up.
Defending what could be later justified in there own minds regarding JWs:
Case in point: Hubby brought up how MJ could no longer talk to LaToya cause she was d'ffed and how he didn't agree with that. I said, "Well, LaToya could be lying." He said, "Yeah, that's true!" I said, "However, that is a plausible situation considering how JWs can't speak with d'ffed ones."
Any other ideas?
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I feel so discouraged
by mouthy inthat micheal jacksons kids are being raise in the wt.
how very,very sad.
i am so upset about that..
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cognac
Due to the fact that them and now the JWs are highly publicized, maybe the media will bring light to how awful this cult is. Maybe they themselves will become apostate and shed light on everything. This could turn out to be a very good thing and I am very hopeful about it. This could help a lot of JWs get out if anything happens especially with all the media coverage... Keep hopeful... They seem to be going against it already in that they want to live with Janet.
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cognac
That song "sweet home alabama" is great! The new rendition is totally awesome! Does that count? If not, maybe this would help: