Posts by cognac

i know some posters here went through or are going through some painful things right now because of no longer believing when they have a husband / wife that still does.

others were able to free the minds of their spouse.

i'm assuming the latter is a lot more rare.. anyone that wishes to share their story, please do.. i'm looking to pass the info on to someone who doesn't totally believe, but may marry a jw.

It was a lot of hard work, but we are still married and happy. We have a baby. I see a therapist to consistantly get an outside professional point of view on the best way handle situations as they arise. But, we are generally happy. We focus on things other then religion. But, I can voice my opinion freely and he can also.

Not everyone can do it. He isn't a normal JW. But, I think he isn't a normal JW anymore because he has listened to a lot of what I have to say. It took an enormous amount of patience for both of us. There was a lot of fighting and arguing especially in the beginning.

One main thing I established was my right to question whatever I wanted to. I had multiple elders and an annointed brother back me up on that one point. Based on that, it started that I would simply ask questions.

Then, it went on to that I didn't believe but we could still live peacably based on that scripture about the unbelieving mate.

There were months and months where we didn't even talk about it because I made sure to not make it into a big deal but rather focus on things we have in common.

Now, everything is pretty happy. :)

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Hey Everyone!!!

by cognac in

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just thought i'd stop by and say hi to everyone?

anything new and exciting?

did the borg over in france collapse cause of all the money they owe yet?.

cognac

Just thought I'd stop by and say hi to everyone? Anything new and exciting? Did the BORG over in France collapse cause of all the money they owe yet?

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Ooooooohhhh...My "unofficial" DA letter...yup...got it in the paper!!

by HadEnuf in

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over the years here on the forum...i have read with interest many da letters.

brave people!!

not so brave.

cognac

Can't work in a job that carries a weapon. Can't work in a job where you would dispense blood to patients. Can't sell cigarrettes. Can't wear a national flag on your uniform. Can't work in a job that requires you to miss a meeting. Etc...

As far as I knew that was all conscious matters... Also, you can work a job that requires you to miss a meeting, they just discourage missing many meetings. I think to say what job you can or can't take goes a bit to far in our accusations against them...

Can't sit in the back row because that's reserved for whoever the elders decide to reserve it for (people with kids, elderly, DFd, etc.).

Well, I would hardly call that controlling at all. Usually its reserved for elderly and people with kids because imo it's the loving thing to do since it is harder for those people...

Do I think they are a cult? Absolutely. But, when we are not completely accurate in our accusations against the BORG it takes away from our credibility. If somebody who was going to the meetings and studying saw that they would view it as lie and thus there perception of apostates confirmed and there resolve to stay with the cult stronger.

That's my humble opinion on those specific points. Other then that it was very well written.

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Ooooooohhhh...My "unofficial" DA letter...yup...got it in the paper!!

by HadEnuf in

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over the years here on the forum...i have read with interest many da letters.

brave people!!

not so brave.

cognac

what kind of work you could do... and even where you should sit in their “Kingdom Halls”.

How do they make decisions on what kind of work you do or where you should sit in the kingdom halls?

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Paul kindof stepped over the line more than once

by gubberningbody in

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i was thinking of the passage at galatians 1:6-8.

"i marvel that you are being so quickly removed from the one who called you with christs undeserved kindness over to another sort of good news.7but it is not another; only there are certain ones who are causing you trouble and wanting to pervert the good news about the christ.8however, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as good news something beyond what we declared to you as good news, let him be accursed.9as we have said above, i also now say again, whoever it is that is declaring to you as good news something beyond what you accepted, let him be accursed.".

so that was either hyperbole and irritation on his part and we shouldn't take it or anything else he said in a letter without some careful consideration, or he was seriously out of line in going down that road.. .

cognac

I just thought he meant because after Jesus time no angels would come down from heaven, so if one said they did, they were false... Paul never explained himself very well and even Peter said that so I think a lot of what he said is misunderstood...

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need advice

by ninja in

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thinking of starting a new business.

how many cat spas should i get?.

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cognac

I think it depends on the cats age...

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Designs would like to discuss crime committed in the world of Christianity

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cognac

lol, Isaac.

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Are Publishers Adequately Prepared for Bad Publicity?

by compound complex in

last saturday afternoon i heard the talk, "put on the lord jesus christ," at the circuit assembly.. one of the overriding questions guiding christians into straight paths was the expected, "what would jesus do?

" citing various texts, the speaker admonished that we should put up a hard fight for the faith, arming ourselves as soldiers.

all good.

cognac

That would cause curiosity and internet searches.

Even as a JW that's what I would have done. The curiosity would have gtten the better of me. Plus, if that DO could have public info, why wouldn't I be able to? I wonder how msny JWs went home and did the same thing...