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Proclaimers of God's Kingdom

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does anybody know if there is access to scanned copy of "jehovah's witnesses - proclaimers of god's kingdom".

thank .

windsong

Does anybody know if there is access to scanned copy of "Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom"

Thank

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Watch tower Quotes - trying again

by windsong in

i'll just start with a few that i need copied of if anyone has them

sorry my last post was all run in together - don't know how that happened

- may 1881 page 225

I'll just start with a few that I need copied of if anyone has them sorry my last post was all run in together - don't know how that happened These are all from watchtower magazines - May 1881 Page 225 - March 1, 1923 Page 67 - January 1, 1924 Page 5 - July 15, 1894 Page 226 - June 1, 1922 Page 174 Thanks

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Need help again with W/T quotes

by windsong in

w/t may 1881, page 225

7, page 386

w/t oct. 1, 1953 page 518

windsong

Hello: I once again would like some photocopies of the following quotes from some of the JW's literature. I have the quotes with the references of where they came from - I just need the actual copies. I am during a presentation on the JW's at my ladies bible study and this is the information I need to show them - it also helps when the JW's come to the door you can show them the actual page instead of just quoting. Som of the references are at the end of the quote. Sorry there is so many - any help would be appreciated even if I don't get them all. Thanks so much W/T May 1881, Page 225 W/T March 1, 1923 Page 67 Studies, Vol. 7, Page 386 W/T Jan 1, 1924 Page 5 W/T July 15, 1894 Page 226 W/T June 1, 1922 Page 174 Time is at Hand P. 128 W/T Oct. 1, 1953 Page 518 Awake July 22, 1979 Page 27 1897 "Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874," Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 4, page 621. 1899 "...the ‘battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced." The Time Is at Hand, page 101 (1908 edition). 1916 "The Bible chronology herein presented shows that the six great 10000 year days beginning with Adam are ended, and that the great 7th Day, the 1000 years of Christ's Reign, began in 1873." The Time Is at Hand, page ii, (forward). 1918 "Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection." Millions Now Living Will Never Die, page 89. 1922 "The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914." The Watchtower 9/1/22, page 262. 1923 "Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge." The Watchtower, PAGE 106 4/1/23. 1925 "The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year." The Watchtower, 1/1/25, page. 3. 1925 "It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated, the thought that 1925 should see an end to the work." The Watchtower, Sept, 1925 page 262. 1926 "Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything." The Watchtower, page 232. 1931 "There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah's faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1917, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a time...and they also learned to quit fixing dates." Vindication, page 338. 1941 "Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon." The Watchtower, 9/15/41, page 288. 1968 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an ‘end to the world', even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The ‘end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing?..Missing from such people were God's truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them." Awake, 10/8/68. 1968 "Why are you looking forward to 1975?" The Watchtower, 8/15/68, page 494.

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Need help again with W/T quotes

by windsong in

w/t may 1881, page 225

7, page 386

w/t oct. 1, 1953 page 518

windsong

Sorry it came out all mixed together - I had them all in a list

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Please help me find a quote from the W/T

by windsong in

i found a quote from the w/t in regards to the kjv of the bible being the best version and then closed the page by accident and now cannot find it.

can any one give me the quote and the reference as well for this.

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windsong

Hi Tatiana:

If you can get a hold of the KIT (Kingdom Interlinear Translation you will see where they make a lot of errors. They transcibe under the greek and then they have the NWT on the right side and you can see where they add words to change meanings.

I also found a web site who has lessons using the NWT to dispute their doctrine - it's quite awesome. I used it with my son especially who had been studying with them for 3 years. I was trying to tell him Jesus was diety and God in the flesh and of course he would not believe it. Study one , two and three on God, Jesus and who is the true God. If you would like the web page I can send it to you.

Also why did they use the KJV for almost 70 years and then come up with the NWT - because they had to change things to support their doctrines.

Cheers Karen

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Please help me find a quote from the W/T

by windsong in

i found a quote from the w/t in regards to the kjv of the bible being the best version and then closed the page by accident and now cannot find it.

can any one give me the quote and the reference as well for this.

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windsong

You guys are awesome. Sure you can send me the scanned page 119 as well - thanks

I wasn't reading a book - I'm doing some research on the internet as I had JW's come to my door - they actually came back 3 times - haven't come back since. 2 men came - one in his 50's and the other looked like he was about 23 or so. The two men weren't really knowledgeable to the tune of answering me quickly, but the third time they sent a women who was. I since found out that they haven't come back because the two men were from out of town only here for 2 weeks and the lady moved a few days later. My friend who is a JW (we never talk religion) told me she moved.

I've always wanted to talk to them but never knew what to say so I started asking them - how do you know your religion is the right one. I told them I have a Mulsim and a mormon friend and they also claim to have the right religion. They said because they use God's name Jehovah - so I said well God when asked what his name was in Exodus (I couldn't remember the verse so I told them they knew their bibles better than me - they would know where it was - so they found it for me) when asked by Moses swho he should say sent him, said he was "I am" and the God of Abraham, God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob has sent me" so to me it wasn't all that important that I call God Jehovah.

I said if I am talking to the God who created this universe, who is all knowing, everywhere etc. then he knows I am talking to him. They didn't dispute that. Then they said that they had the right translation as there are many out there that are false. - I totally agreed with them. I asked them how they knew their's was the right translation and they said because it was translated from the greek and they had the greek to english translation - would I like one and I said "YES!!" I've been trying to get a KIT for a long time - no one has one. In fact my girlfriend who is a JW didn't even know what it was. They had to order it they said and I'm still waiting to get it. Now those men have left town and the women has moved so it's looking like I may not get it. My girlfriend said it could take up to a month depending on when the hall puts in their order to Brooklyn.

Anyways I've been doing some research so I can answer them better or dispute what they tell me biblically. I came across that quote about the KJV being a good translation and then closed the window by accident and thought it was from a watchtower, but it was from "Creation"

Thanks for all your help

Cheers Karen

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Please help me find a quote from the W/T

by windsong in

i found a quote from the w/t in regards to the kjv of the bible being the best version and then closed the page by accident and now cannot find it.

can any one give me the quote and the reference as well for this.

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windsong

Thank you soooo much for sending me the quote. What an awesome quote, but then as I read on it basically says that the translation is not perfect and contains mistakes . . . .

Is there any way you could send me a copy of the next page/s so I can continute to read what is says

Thanks so much

Karen

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Please help me find a quote from the W/T

by windsong in

i found a quote from the w/t in regards to the kjv of the bible being the best version and then closed the page by accident and now cannot find it.

can any one give me the quote and the reference as well for this.

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windsong

Hi:

I was doing research on the internet and on one of the sites I was looking at had the quote - then I closed the page by accident as I had several pages running at the same time and didn't get the watchtower mag. it came from

Hope someone can help.

Thanks

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Please help me find a quote from the W/T

by windsong in

i found a quote from the w/t in regards to the kjv of the bible being the best version and then closed the page by accident and now cannot find it.

can any one give me the quote and the reference as well for this.

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windsong

Thanks for your quick reply

It was a quote in a watchtower about the KJV being the best version out there. Of course now the JW's have the NWT.

I would like to find the quote that the society made about the KJV so I can point it out to the JW's as they tell me their NWT version is the best.

Thanks

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Please help me find a quote from the W/T

by windsong in

i found a quote from the w/t in regards to the kjv of the bible being the best version and then closed the page by accident and now cannot find it.

can any one give me the quote and the reference as well for this.

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windsong

I found a quote from the W/T in regards to the KJV of the bible being the best version and then closed the page by accident and now cannot find it. Can any one give me the quote and the reference as well for this.

Thanks