HI Layla,
so you dont think there is any hope ? Have you been into JW ? How did YOU finish it ? All of you - That tells me it is possible !! One "only" needs a helping hand ?
i'm sorry if i'm totally wrong here but i have a serious problem.. i met a woman in the company i work in via intranet.
it is a very big company with offices all over the world.
she moved to the united kingdom just a few month before we met.
HI Layla,
so you dont think there is any hope ? Have you been into JW ? How did YOU finish it ? All of you - That tells me it is possible !! One "only" needs a helping hand ?
i'm sorry if i'm totally wrong here but i have a serious problem.. i met a woman in the company i work in via intranet.
it is a very big company with offices all over the world.
she moved to the united kingdom just a few month before we met.
Hi Carla,
thanks for your reply as well.
I will and she does read lotsa things, we watch all sorts of movies thru internet together, i do wear a beard (if it this what you mean) she works in the same company as I do and this is not a religious one. we are planning holidays for the future, well she attends 3 meetings a week... I play every game I like ( what games are considered to be bad ?) I need more input. They cannot control my mind and not what I am doing I think.... is this wrong am I too much in good faith ?
and what do you mean by not happy until I'm an elder....
i'm sorry if i'm totally wrong here but i have a serious problem.. i met a woman in the company i work in via intranet.
it is a very big company with offices all over the world.
she moved to the united kingdom just a few month before we met.
Of yourse I dont want to join it, the question is what is the best way of getting her off this drug ? If I confronted her at once she would shut down and there would be no possibility anymore to help her.
BUT she is so deeply in love (I had to make it short in my startup message to explain everything) that she WILL follow me to any country I choose to live the life we have so often talked about.
And if it all fails - where is the problem for me (except for the lost love) I still have my work and my friends and so on. I will never - and I told her that already - give my money to some organisation and live poorly. I told her that I will be in charge of the family / her first. And not make JW my fist concern. I can see someone living with religion but the company behind it (and that counts for the catholic church as well) is a completely other thing ! I asked her if she will trust in the bible or in the company and she told me it is "only" the faith she is after. I cannot tell how true this is at the moment. What I need to know as well if there is any other "risc" I have to fear ??
Nice point, I love this kinda agressive attitude of yours - I'm sure you have your reasons and would love to have more comments from your side ;-)
i'm sorry if i'm totally wrong here but i have a serious problem.. i met a woman in the company i work in via intranet.
it is a very big company with offices all over the world.
she moved to the united kingdom just a few month before we met.
Hi Serotonin,
thanks for your reply first. As she already told me and for the ways and matter what she tells me she has NEVER told anyone only half as much about her feelings as she told me. I can feel that and I have the weird impression that if anyone can save her it maybe ME. So I also have a big responsibility for her as well. I dont want to mess it up - it is too important for HER (and later on I hope for us)
She even told me that she never had so honest / fair minded / straight forward talks even with herself !! I think that tells a lot !!!!
i'm sorry if i'm totally wrong here but i have a serious problem.. i met a woman in the company i work in via intranet.
it is a very big company with offices all over the world.
she moved to the united kingdom just a few month before we met.
please forgive me but it is now almost 2am and I have to go to bed. I will answer all posts tommorrow.
@sweetface maybe we can talk later as I am very interested in your opinion. I like what you wrote and maybe you can also explain to me the way of "JW girls" better than a man could do
i'm sorry if i'm totally wrong here but i have a serious problem.. i met a woman in the company i work in via intranet.
it is a very big company with offices all over the world.
she moved to the united kingdom just a few month before we met.
Hi Sweetface,
I already thought about that, too. I'm a computer tech and have a humanistic education. old greek and latin philosophers and so on. I REALLY think about that very hard. You say she's done me a favour.. how do you mean that. Sorry I am not american and maybe I didnt get that expression right. ?
i'm sorry if i'm totally wrong here but i have a serious problem.. i met a woman in the company i work in via intranet.
it is a very big company with offices all over the world.
she moved to the united kingdom just a few month before we met.
Hi, thanks for your reply,
our goals are similar, cos she wants to spend her life with me and she tells me to follow me whereever I lead her, to build a house to have children later on, to live a decent life - all "old time" stuff I know but this time it feels right to me as well... Everything we talk about - we share almost always the exact same opinion. It is very strange. I never had this before in my life !!!
I know that it will be very difficult and I'm prepared .... just need more help / advice. Of course, also the bad points of this are important to me. so thanks to you, too !!!!
i'm sorry if i'm totally wrong here but i have a serious problem.. i met a woman in the company i work in via intranet.
it is a very big company with offices all over the world.
she moved to the united kingdom just a few month before we met.
thanks for your answer : good point.
fact is - she is listening very closely to all I say ! AND we do talk about religion, too. As a matter of fact I am and always was interested in religions and therefor I 'm very convincing. I do ask her a lot of questions and tell her to explain them to me. She always does. And I was telling the truth, when I told her that I have an open mind and want to learn everything about this religion as well. Only I found out so many things that do not "fit". It sounds very reasonable to ask just one question from time to time, she cannot really answer... It has to be SHE, who finds the answers. But still there is this problem about all her friends and contacts... What a mess.....
AND it is much too late to shut down the engine - I'm already too much emotionally involved.
See after all those discussions she still tells me that she will wait for me to marry her - as long as it takes !!!
i'm sorry if i'm totally wrong here but i have a serious problem.. i met a woman in the company i work in via intranet.
it is a very big company with offices all over the world.
she moved to the united kingdom just a few month before we met.
Hi Gopher,
thank you so much for your quick reply. I will check out that page at once, of course. If you think that my post belongs to another topic or where I can get more "answers" please tell me how to put it there. Thanks again
Sven
i'm sorry if i'm totally wrong here but i have a serious problem.. i met a woman in the company i work in via intranet.
it is a very big company with offices all over the world.
she moved to the united kingdom just a few month before we met.
Hi,
I'm sorry if I'm totally wrong here but I have a serious problem.
I met a woman in the company I work in via intranet. It is a very big company with offices all over the world. She moved to the united kingdom just a few month before we met. After a few weeks we wrote emails, chatted on the net but we've never seen each other. Once she told me she was a JW. I didnt think about it back then. Then we began talking via skype. Now month passed and we talked every day for several hours - I mean we talked 4-6 hours til 3 or 4 am !!!!!. And suddenly love came in our way. So this affair if I may call it so had nothin to do with looks or whatever is normal. We talked and talked ... about all sorts of things and found out that we share the same ideas feel the same and also have the same goals, partly . And when we met in person 3 month later I knew I'd give anything to marry that woman. She feels the same for me I know. But still she is a passionate JW. See how hard it is for her to keep up our relationship and not denying her beliefs. So we met again for a day in my country before she was going to visit her family. And again that was the most fantastic day in my life and in hers as she told me. Nothin ever happened between us - no Sex just kisses. Just two days later while she was still with her family - things changed, She wrote me an email that she decided to end our relationship until I became a member of JW.And she had to end it now as she doesnt want me to become a member just because of her - my decision must be of free will. This is now two weeks ago and I called her twice a day on the mobile and sent her some sms and now when she got back from her parents things change again back "to normal" This is hard for her I know but this is hard for me as well. I do love her and although I was never baptized in any religion and as I am a very cool thinking man I really intend to become a JW unless I can save her from that cult. She es a VERY logical thinking woman (yes there are some ;-) ) and she would very soon find out where I was going to lead her. She was raised in a JW family her father is an oldest (if that is the correct expression in english) and she would loose ANY friend/contact she has ever had. What can I do - what should I do. I dont want to throw all the facts that I know now about JW at her and maybe let her commit suicide or leave me. Becoming a JW seems to me the only "reasonible" way. I do NOT want to hurt her, I can only imagine what she already has gone thru by just keeping up this relationship with me. She loves me truly and I dont want to let her down. Can anyone give suggestions. I know this all sounds ridiculous to you and when I read these lines things are a bit messed up. But thats the way I feel right now (and she as well). I never told her (that was/is my only lie to her) that I did some research about JW and found some .... mysteries. There must be someone out there, who had simlilar thoughts or experiences. IS THERE HELP ?
Thank you so much in advance