some threads do need to be deleted.. thank you..
Wasssuuuppp!? How bout my avatar? Do you think that I'll fit in? It's colored!NO!! Ms McD...you're a racist! Take it down!
My avatar is colored too. I colored it invisible. Har har.
I'm not really colored though. I think maybe I'm colored English or French. So I guess that makes me coloured.
// Ducks and runs away before a bigotry/racism/atheism/I-slapped-yo-mamma thread starts.
tonight was (apparently) the final episode, as cbs has made the incredibly brain dead decision to cancel it.. i liked it.
the conspiracy plot kinda dragged on and on, but some of the other subplots and ideas (especially about the corporatization of america, and the obligation of citizens to reject a government that no longer represents the interests of the people) were not normal television fodder.. oh, well.
it was a good experience while it lasted..... .
Barbee, executive producer of CBS' canceled post-apocalyptic series Jericho , told SCI FI Wire that talks are ongoing to find the show another home, perhaps on a cable network.
Oh how I wish this would come to fruition. I remember when Arrested Development was going to be cancelled on Fox there was discussion that Showtime or some other network would pick it up. They even joked about it on the 3rd, final season. Never happened. It would be most unfortunate for Jericho to just disappear when so much original programming on SciFi just sucks. Battlestar Galactica is a strong exception in my humble opinion!
The elders can use this to enforce dress and grooming standards at the Kingdom Halls, but the Society can claim that they don't have rules about how you have to dress at the Kingdom Hall, even though they hint that you should follow these same rules there too. They use a controlling atmosphere that turns hints into rules and then they deny that they have the rules.
I think DT summarized best my concern here. I've complained about the "rules" they have to people before. Typically the argument back is "They have a volunteer group that is a specific family and families have rules. If you don't like it you don't have to be there." Or some say "Even the military and many companies have rules around dress and grooming".
I think the key point to take away is that MANY elders take this as trickle-down rules. They expect this in the congregation and if you don't fall in line with how "Bethel does it" then you are a rebel and are scrutinized it other areas.
I'm Not Feeling It! Leave me out!
// Revised to LOL back at Karvel's headline!!!!!111!!!!111!!!eleventy!!! HAR Har!!!1!
even though it's snowing right now.. my wife just hung out the feeders a couple days ago.
i shot the pics off of our covered porch.. .
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great pictures ! we need to put nectar in ours since they should be here soon if not now.
tonight was (apparently) the final episode, as cbs has made the incredibly brain dead decision to cancel it.. i liked it.
the conspiracy plot kinda dragged on and on, but some of the other subplots and ideas (especially about the corporatization of america, and the obligation of citizens to reject a government that no longer represents the interests of the people) were not normal television fodder.. oh, well.
it was a good experience while it lasted..... .
I like Jericho. The last ep is on my DVR as we speak so no SPOILERS here thank you very much!
Some of the acting was so-so to me but I'm a sucker for post-apocalyptic stories (must be my Armageddon indoctrination).
there has been much discussion about reasons not to attend the memorial and the freedom that ensues.
i'm not at that place yet so i deal with this differently.
i have family that are in and some faded.
Fear is definitely a driver for many. The witnesses use that to thier advantage. Although when you really look at it, the things people are afraid of and point to as signs of the end have been going on forever. So, along with my fade from witness faith I have left behind thier form of psuedo-predestination. I make my own luck and I'll set my own path. If God is looking at me and expecting a non-stop stream of more works without which I will go to hell or be dead forever... so be it. I guess the joke's on me. Living life constantly on edge waiting for the Armageddon to boil did me little good over the past 30ish years.
I'm just Not Feeling It.
hi when i watch tv esp american tv shows about the bible belt and amish communities, just wondered if anyone out there lived near those areas and did you door to door witness and was it easy??.
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just curious..
Service in the Amish areas was always interesting. The conversion rate (to JWs at least) was practically nil besides some converts about 60-80 years ago (wow). There was a convert family of Zooks that went to the Hall I used to. I think they are all dead now as they were SUPER old when I was in my pre-teen years. I've been gone from there for about 15 years now so I have no idea if there have been new ones. I doubt it.
The area is extremely rural. Amish farms are very big. So you would spend a good part of the morning driving to see about 10-20 houses. I didn't mind it. Typically the groups would stop for a break or to do more town territory to keep the placement quota up. The Amish/Mennonites were very often home since they worked mostly on thier farms. Funny thing: Witnesses don't have a monopoly on the term "worldly" as the A/M's use it too.
There were great variations in thier adherance to rules within thier religions (driving cars, electricity, association with outside world, etc...). Witnesses I knew used to point to that negatively showing how *they* were a cult for it. Pot meet Kettle.
The conversations with them were usually interesting. They too know thier Bibles very well. So, I recall one time arguing with an Amish lady about hellfire. At some point she was shouting "the letter killeth". It was interesting that sticks in my head even still. I wonder if they were counting time on us since we surely didn't mind preaching at someone for an hour getting absolutely nowhere.
so i'm in the process of ditching my jw friends and one of them tells me that i'm starting to sound like an apostate why??
because i'm going to yet another congregation and she feels that i should stay in one cogo to get established.
first of all i'm about to go into a foreign language congo wherein i speak half the language and want to be fluent in that language, but my real reason is....i don't want friends and family finding out about my fade so they won't start calling me and bugging me.
sorry to break it to you but staying in one congregation is in the bible. its in Hezikiah. go look it up. ... waits ... god that joke never gets old. seriously as has been said, you can't be monitored all the time if you aren't reporting in to your minders regularly. definitely don't think for yourself either.
hi when i watch tv esp american tv shows about the bible belt and amish communities, just wondered if anyone out there lived near those areas and did you door to door witness and was it easy??.
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just curious..
I'm reading on my phone/pda now so its not so easy to reply. however I grew up in SE pennsylvania a stronghold of amish mennonite and the like. our territory bordered the area where witness was filmed. neat movie. ill write more later for your amusement
ok so my mom has been a dub for a long time... i don't know how long for sure but since before i was born at least.
anyway she's... well not submissive!
she was in fact a bra burning hippie feminist before becoming a dub and how they ever convinced her i don't know.
I think that depends on the temperment of her congregation. I used to live pretty close to your ZIP code there in FL a few years back and it could range from "what an ungrateful Jezebel (whore)!" to "so glad you are here, Sister MKR's mom". I'm sure a good CO worth his salt would give her or her husband a talking to. I wonder if I ever saw you at the Coliseum.
My mom was pretty similar to yours. Although she was attracted to the revolutionary aspects of JW-ness and the whole perfect life in a commune thing.
PS. I just GOTTA read the "Bichaz Guide to Bethel Pimping" brochure you mentioned. Comedy gold I'm sure. I can only hope there is a subtle quote in it to the effect of "showing clevage on the tour causes our dear volunteers to defile themselves en masse. Please think of the laundry room attendants!"
