We would give them agood run for their money in a conventional war, the best thing to do though, would be to use Germ Warfare in the form of the Noodle Virus that would kill off all the noodle crop. Every noodle tree would shrivel.
Posts by wobble
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23USA/Australian alliance could not defeat China in World War 3...agree?
by Witness 007 inchina has protested president obama's plan for increased usa military in northern australia this week.
i was just thinking, the usa is bankrupt and china has all the cash...not to mention 1 billion people!!!
if war broke out we would be totally screwed!
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What was your most DISTURBING event as an elder ? (Per T.O.S. no full names please).
by Balaamsass ini'll start the ball rolling.
dealing with kids in any type of judicial manner.
i would do everything i could to get parents to "deal with it-kindly" at home.
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wobble
I was never an Elder so never had to deal with such stuff. One or two JW's confessed things to me that would normally have gone to the Elders and probably thence to a JC, but I counselled according to what the Bible says, and their secrets remain with me alone.
The question Glueman asks is relevant, what NT justification do they have for a JC ? "Reprove before all onlookers" comes to mind, but nothing about an In Camera inqusition.
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WTBTS ban on White Cells is ****ed up!
by Shrugged init s well known that the wt forbidds transfusion of white cells, but i was shocked when i read on ajwrb that organs actually contains more white cells than blood, and that "a jw who accepts an organ transplant takes in more leukocytes than he would through a blood transfusion.".
even more shocking was that apparently "mothers milk contains 5-12 times more leukocytes than a corresponding amount of blood...this also applies to cow milk, which is used extensively as food and drink in all the world.
so every time a jw drinks milk, he receives more of the prohibited leukocytes than if he or she receives a blood transfusion!".
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wobble
It would just be laughable doctrine from a silly little cult, but this rubbish kills people, it just isn't funny.
The whole silly doctrine has evolved in to total nonsense.
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I just "witnessed" officially for the first time!!!
by NoRegrets ini mean door to door (sort of), not informally to non-witness friends and family!.
so for a few weeks, i have suspected that my neighbor across the hall was being studied with by witnesses.
i wasn't sure but saw a couple of older women leaving with what looked like bibles, but never saw watchtower literature.
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Well done NR ! I too have un-witnessed or de-dubbed my neighbours, it is a good thing to do, they all said they were not aware of what a horrible little cult the JW's/WT is.
I would suggest you mention JWfacts.com, even if your neighbour does not have access to it , she can mention it to the Dubs ! and offer to print off articles from there on stuff that already worries her, she can then be forearmed to present her concerns to the Dubs when they call.
Oh boy,this is fun!
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The Ideas Thread - all are welcome!
by cedars insorry it's been a while since i posted anything.
i've kind of had my hands full of late.
there are some things i want to say, but i am saving some of it for a more appropriate time.. i thought i would start a simple "ideas thread" as a thread on which we can, well, share our ideas!
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wobble
I like the ideas coming up on here, and agree ceders, two PDF's, one for the public one for the JW's is a good idea.
I wonder too about simply doing one for the public that highlights their secret "Do not call" list, and the fact that all you have to do is tell them and you are on it, if this was blanket distributed it is likely to get a good number of people acting on it, if we simply put this info in amongst other stuff it could get missed.
We could even have the back of it printed with a notice that the JW'scould read if it was placed in a widow or porch etc something like.
"Jehovah's Witnesses ! Please ensure that we are entered on your "Do not Call" list, and please do not call again. JWfacts.com."
That way they don't have to answer the door, or even be in, to get on the list. If huge numbers do this the JW's will see it as persecution true, but it will add to their disquiet with the religion.
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RUTHERFORD VIEWS ABOUT CATHOLISM WERE JUSTIFIED
by Sobeit inlast night on pbs, there was a program about finding and persuing nazi's after wwii.
nazi's from croatia were given refuge in catholic seminaries and a priest then credited them.
with baptism and a new name.
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wobble
It certainly is not apost from a sane person with a grasp of reality, Rutherford right about something ? Come on!
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The Ideas Thread - all are welcome!
by cedars insorry it's been a while since i posted anything.
i've kind of had my hands full of late.
there are some things i want to say, but i am saving some of it for a more appropriate time.. i thought i would start a simple "ideas thread" as a thread on which we can, well, share our ideas!
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wobble
Dear Ceders, You are a mover and a shaker, and I admire you immensely, and wish your efforts well.
Just a simple idea I would like to see come to fruition, is for a small tract to be produced that all of us could "place" anywhere that would alert the public and JW's alike.I have seen a number of efforts at this, but all seem to get mired in the particular problems that the writer feels are so important, and then spends too much time explaining it all.
Worthy though these efforts are, they amount to "striking the air with your blows", the public do not read more than half a sentence before binning a tract, the JW's have an even shorter attention span.
This means that some genius who could earn a fortune working for an AD agency is needed to produce something that would get through to both groups.
Perhapsthe collective talent we have on here could step up to the plate, and produce something we could deliver to people's houses, leave in any public place, and even on JW's cars, whatever.
It would need to be an in easily downloadable and printable format, but I believe could be very powerfull.
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The REAL atheist meaning of life . . .
by nicolaou inthere isn't one and that's a really good thing.
let me illustrate;.
you are an artist, you pick up a new canvas and place it on your easel.
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The mind of the artist is not restricted by the borders of his canvass, he sees a picture much wider and taller and deeper than the "frame" he delivers to us.
Any rules he adheres to are only observed out of some necessity. He/She is free.
The atheist is free, his canvass is as wide as his vision, his observing of rules is his free choice.
The believer is not free, whatever creed he adheres to dictates his thoughts and actions, and usually is delivered to him by another man, so the believer is that man's slave.
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My mom and dad told me that I'm an apostate and that they want to 'limit their association' with me!!!
by Joliette ina series of events led up to an arugment with my parents last night.
my mom and dad told me that they found my videos that i was doing on youtube, and they told me that i was an apostate.
they said that they would help me if it was an emergency, but other then that, they didnt want anything to do with me.
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I am sorry for your pain Joliette, and sorry your family reacted that way, but you must have known there was a risk this would happen ?
I can see before I am much older that I will experience a similar thing with my family, I have ramped up my anti-witnessing somewhat.
Whatever happens, you and I can rely on our true JWN family for support!
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Why are letters from John and Paul included in the Bible?
by Lore ini don't see much difference between paul writing a letter to the corinthian congregation and the gb writing a letter to the timbucktoo congregation.. is what paul wrote to the ephesians just as fallible and subject to 'new light' as the letters the wts writes to congregations today?.
if a letter from the governing body today which says it's immoral to have an organ transplant can be dead wrong and changed later.
can the letter from paul which says it's wrong to eat blood be dead wrong and subject to change later?.
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wobble
I think that we who have come from a religion that says its teachings are based on the Bible, and teaches that it is the word of god and inerrant, are approaching this from the wrong end of the telescope.
Long before there was a (Christian) Bible, before any sort of canon of Christian writings, there was a vibrant, powerful, living faith, a faith that was spreading throughout the Roman Empire, not just because of the efforts of Paul of Tarsus, but spreading before his conversion, and beyond his sphere of influence after his ministry started.
That faith did not spring from, nor depend upon, any "New Testament" writings.
Just as we would have a workable and accepted Theory of Evolution without the fossil record, we would have a christian faith without the N.T
Without the N.T it might not have survived until the 21st century, but I rather think it would have.
The religion came first, the writings later, as with Islam.