When Noah started sacrificing the animals after the flood, do you think his family got a little perturbed? "Wait a minute, You mean to tell me that we've been having to shovel hundreds of metric tons of feces every single day, when we could have just killed these f__kers?!"
Galileo
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Was God over reacting destroying the whole planet in Noah's flood to kill afew evil people...too bad Noah forgot the Unicorns and Dinosaurs according to the Watchtower!
by Witness 007 inyes instead of striking them dead he decided to flood the entire planet killing every living plant and animal {sorry peta members} which only afew years before he created declaring it "good.
" then he made a "rainbow" as a sign that never again will he destroy every living thing.. wasn't this over the top?.
too bad they forgot the poor unicorns and dinosuars though!.
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What if WBTS is right?
by african GB Member inpeople, please don't be angry at me, but do you sometimes ask yourselves this question?
i do..
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Galileo
I don't know why it's showing the video embedded in the preview but not in the post. Here's the direct link if it doesn't show up this time
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What if WBTS is right?
by african GB Member inpeople, please don't be angry at me, but do you sometimes ask yourselves this question?
i do..
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I like the way Richard Dawkins (atheist) answered the similar question "what if you're wrong?" (Warning, offensive to Christians).
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Was God over reacting destroying the whole planet in Noah's flood to kill afew evil people...too bad Noah forgot the Unicorns and Dinosaurs according to the Watchtower!
by Witness 007 inyes instead of striking them dead he decided to flood the entire planet killing every living plant and animal {sorry peta members} which only afew years before he created declaring it "good.
" then he made a "rainbow" as a sign that never again will he destroy every living thing.. wasn't this over the top?.
too bad they forgot the poor unicorns and dinosuars though!.
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So the “peer reviewed scientific documents” for human origins are anymore credible?
Yes. Here are just a couple of reasons.
1. The Ancient Egyptians have an unbroken written history that goes back further than the date the supposed biblical flood occurred. There is no break in that history while their civilization was destroyed and than rebuilt. For that matter, why would Noah's descendants have rebuilt it?
2. If every animal alive today "evolved" from those animals that could have fit on the ark, than biblical literalists like the WTS believe in a far more radical and faster moving type of evolution than any credible scientist has ever proposed.
One of my favorite tidbits about the flood legend: After saving all of these animals through seemingly impossible circumstances, Noah starts slaughtering them for sacrifices. Doesn't seem like a brilliant allocation of resources.
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Are their d2d presentations good enough to convert?
by highdose ini remember asking a uber dub i was on the fs with " if you were the hh would you want to know more after listening to your presentation?
" she addmitted that no, she wouldn't have wanted to listen further.. so basicly the fs is really quite useless?
the jws doing it mostly have neither the skills nor interest to make a hh want to listen.
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Galileo
No offense intended WasBlind. In all fairness I'm sure there are plenty of non mentally ill people that convert for a variety of reasons - for a time. In a way you have proven my point, at least the point I was aiming at although I may have been wide of the mark. You "converted", but once you learned more of the facts, you deconverted. That is definitely evidence of a well functioning intellect. I don't think many on this site would likely fit the criteria of the "mentally off" people I was describing, because by definition the vast majority of those on this site have thought their way out of the cult or are in the process of doing so.
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Did the new Tom Cruise "Day & Night" movie flop?
by JWoods ina lot of comments that it basically flopped.
it came in only 3rd box office over the release weekend, grossed about 50 million.. it cost 45 million to make, (besides the big promo advertising campaign iirc).. film company execs are covering up by saying "we don't blame tom cruise" --- but ---.
i wonder if the couch-jumping scientology crazie-ness incidents (and some past bad flicks) have finally come home to roost?.
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Galileo
For me personally, Tom Cruise is the only actor that I refuse to give one dime to because of his personal beliefs. I find Scientology to be one of the vilest cults in existence. When I found out they sued the Cult Awareness Network into bankruptcy, than bought it, that was enough for me. Think about it: If someone calls the Cult Awareness Network looking for support in leaving the CoS, their call is answered by a Scientologist! I will never knowingly give money to a member of that group.
That isn't to say that I won't watch a movie with that freak in it. That's what Bittorrent is for.
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Are their d2d presentations good enough to convert?
by highdose ini remember asking a uber dub i was on the fs with " if you were the hh would you want to know more after listening to your presentation?
" she addmitted that no, she wouldn't have wanted to listen further.. so basicly the fs is really quite useless?
the jws doing it mostly have neither the skills nor interest to make a hh want to listen.
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Superpunk said it perfectly. When was the last time that someone without some sort of mental illness converted to the Witnesses due exclusively to the d2d ministry? I don't know if I ever met one. Apparently it used to happen in the seventies/early eighties when my parents converted but everyone in my peer group were born-ins. Most of the willing converts I ever met were at least a little "off". This used to really bother me when I was a JW.
I'm speaking here strictly of the U.S. of course. I'm sure it happens more often in third world countries where superstition is rampant and standards of evidence are totally unnecessary when it comes to religious belief.
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The Grandest "witness" that each of us could give to the world looks to be shortly upon us. Will you be there? (In honor of Ray Franz)
by StoneWall inmany of us are aware of the stroke that raymond franz had yesterday,.
that he is on life support and it doesn't look like he is going to pull through.. someone on another thread mentioned if he didn't survive how many.
was planning on attending his funeral.. to me this deserves its own thread.. .
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As others have stated, Ray Franz is not now and never has been my leader. He didn't drag me out of the WT Society. While I was still an active JW, I wouldn't have dared read Ray Franz's books. They were the very definition of apostasy. It was only after I escaped the cult that I found the courage to read Crisis of Conscience. I found Ray's account of his life at Bethel to be very moving, comforting, and disturbing. It brought me comfort at a very difficult time in my life, and helped confirm many things that I had observed on my own. He let me know I was not alone. I owe him a debt I can never repay.
I am no longer a Christian, and I know Ray would be disappointed in that. On this point we differ. Nevertheless, I respect him greatly and I intend to make every effort to attend his funeral. I hope to see many of you there.
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"The Vincible Ignorance of Atheism"
by leavingwt inone evangelical's perspective on atheism, and 'red meat' for all.
the vincible ignorance of atheism.
david harts recent essay on the new atheists has been receiving a great deal of attentionand criticism.
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Galileo
I just looked through some of your other posts, and yes, an apology was definitely in order. I was way out of line and totally misunderstood where you were coming from. Thanks for your understanding.
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"The Vincible Ignorance of Atheism"
by leavingwt inone evangelical's perspective on atheism, and 'red meat' for all.
the vincible ignorance of atheism.
david harts recent essay on the new atheists has been receiving a great deal of attentionand criticism.
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Galileo
Wow. Did I totally miss the point of your post? In that case, I sincerely apologize. In any respect, thanks for getting my adrenaline going :-)