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  Why does an atheist have to disprove anything?

  by digderidoo in

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  i have noticed alot of debate in posts lately between an atheist argument and a christian one.

  it seems to me that the atheist is asked to disprove god's existence.

  some times these debates have started to get personal with one side attacking the other with insults and i do not want to start another argument like these.. but i dont get it?

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  Galileo

  um did you forget about Hitler? all that were killed here out number what you speak of

  “I may not be a light of the church, a pulpiteer, but deep down I am a pious man, and believe that whoever fights bravely in defense of the natural laws framed by God and never capitulates will never be deserted by the Lawgiver, but will, in the end, receive the blessings of Providence.” -Adolf Hitler

  “I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.” -Adolph Hitler

  I could go on with these quotes for many pages.
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  Why does an atheist have to disprove anything?

  by digderidoo in

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  i have noticed alot of debate in posts lately between an atheist argument and a christian one.

  it seems to me that the atheist is asked to disprove god's existence.

  some times these debates have started to get personal with one side attacking the other with insults and i do not want to start another argument like these.. but i dont get it?

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  you are kidding. if it wasnt for believers this earth would be in anarchy

  I realize I've already responded to this, but I don't think my previous response was adequate. This is literally one of the stupidest remarks I've ever read. Was it atheists that flew airplanes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon? Was it atheists that released poison gas in the Tokyo subways? Was it atheists that burned witches in Salem? Was it atheists that justified slavery with the Holy Scriptures? Was it atheists that slaughtered tens of thousands in the Crusades? Is it atheists that practice female circumcision? Honor killings of girls because they have been raped? Spread Aids by denying condoms to the third world?

  You are a total moron.
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  Why does an atheist have to disprove anything?

  by digderidoo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have noticed alot of debate in posts lately between an atheist argument and a christian one.

  it seems to me that the atheist is asked to disprove god's existence.

  some times these debates have started to get personal with one side attacking the other with insults and i do not want to start another argument like these.. but i dont get it?

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  you are kidding. if it wasnt for believers this earth would be in anarchy

  I guess you've never heard of the dark ages, or who made them so.
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  Why does an atheist have to disprove anything?

  by digderidoo in

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  2. friends

  i have noticed alot of debate in posts lately between an atheist argument and a christian one.

  it seems to me that the atheist is asked to disprove god's existence.

  some times these debates have started to get personal with one side attacking the other with insults and i do not want to start another argument like these.. but i dont get it?

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  you are wrong. they found her and her son buried

  Are you talking about Madeline Murray O haire? She ws murdered for a large amount of gold coins that she had. It had nothing to do with ideology, but for some reason believers like to think it was because she was a prominent atheist.
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  Why does an atheist have to disprove anything?

  by digderidoo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have noticed alot of debate in posts lately between an atheist argument and a christian one.

  it seems to me that the atheist is asked to disprove god's existence.

  some times these debates have started to get personal with one side attacking the other with insults and i do not want to start another argument like these.. but i dont get it?

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  Atheism does?

  Humans have a lousy track record, regardless of persuasion, and atheist public policy is also stained.

  Stalin was a maniac that happened to be an atheist. If you think that atheists are more likely than believers to commit heinous acts, than there should be a huge percentage of members of the National Academy of Sciences that are rapists and muderers, since 93% of them don't believe in a personal god. Do you suppose the vast majority of the prison population are atheists or believers?
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  Why does an atheist have to disprove anything?

  by digderidoo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have noticed alot of debate in posts lately between an atheist argument and a christian one.

  it seems to me that the atheist is asked to disprove god's existence.

  some times these debates have started to get personal with one side attacking the other with insults and i do not want to start another argument like these.. but i dont get it?

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  Galileo

  As the title of this thread indicates, the atheist need prove nothing. Atheism is a negative belief, and a negative is unprovable, therefore the burden of proof is on the theist. With apologies to J. M. Barrie, I don't believe in fairies. I also don't believe in unicorns, the Loch Ness monster, Thor, Zeuss, Jehovah, Baal, Wotan, Apollo, Isis, Osiris, Vishnu, Allah, Krishna, Brahma, Ganesh, Chalchiuhtlicue, or any other made up deities. I don't need to prove any or all of these do not exist. If you have evidence that any of these actually exists, the burden of proof is on you to persuade me and the world with the weight of your evidence. Until then, intellectual honesty requires, not agnosticism, but atheism. If you are agnostic about one of these things, you must be agnostic about all, and if you are agnostic about all, I don't know how you ever make a decision about anything, as you must be indecisive about everything. After all, if you are agnostic about everything you cannot disprove, than you are agnostic about every idea ever conceived by anyone. At some point, you must realize that the only rational position is to believe only that which is supported by evidence.
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  Announcement: They Clapped!

  by metatron in

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  weird.

  after the letter was read, many clapped.

  i don't know how to interpret that.. .

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  mightyone:

  Yes, many have been hurt by brothers behaving improperly. Many more, however, overlooked human imperfection when we were "in". Instead, we were hurt by the made up date of 607 B.C.E. All historians know that the overwhelming evidence is that the Babylonian exile began in 586-587 B.C.E. You won't find a single history book verifying the 607 date, unless it ws written by a JW apologist. This makes all of their chronology invalid, and the Governing Body has been aware of this for decades, at least since the early seventies when Carl Olof Johansson made them aware.

  Or by the fact that they lie about an increase in earthquakes in the twentieth century. Or that they lie about predicting 1914 would be the beginning of the Gentle Times, since this teaching wasn't changed untill years after 1914. etc. etc.

  What really hurt many of us is that they have the power to cut you off from friends, family, and loved ones for even mentioning these facts. Personally, I lost my wife over them.

  edit: sorry for the lack of paragraph breaks. I'm posting from my phone & it doesn't format properly.
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  Having Sex With a Hot Sister

  by Seeker4 in

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  i was hoping that title would draw you in!

  i was just thinking this morning about a lot of the judicial meetings i was in over the years.

  i was remembering how, if it involved immorality and a good looking sister, it would not be unusual for one of the elders to comment on that.

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  The CO told me he asked them if they went home a masterbaited after wards.

  Wow! I like your CO!

  I have a friend that is still in, a female, blonde, 20's, very attractive. She confessed to some elders about some "inappropriate" behavior that she had engaged in. She told me later that she felt totally violated by the elders' questions (what were you wearing, wear did you touch, how long did it last, etc.), not at all comforted, and that she would never go through that again. One of the elders involved, not knowing I knew the details, later made an offhand comment to me about how gorgeous this sister was.
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  Dirty joke in the Awake magazine!

  by TJ - iAmCleared2Land in

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  ok, not the awake!, but in consolation, it's predecessor.

  refer to this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/128918/1.ashx.

  there appears to be a "dirty joke" in the first issue (november 29, 1939) posted in the thread.

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  Galileo

  About "the bees that were molested": To "molest" means to bother. In Spanish you would say: "no me molestes" or "don't molest me" as in "don't bother me". The person who wrote the words to that Kingdom Melody was probably a native spanish speaker.

  That makes sense. I never thought about the writer being a spanish speaker, although I was aware of the words other meanings. What I actually thought was what I'm sure most people thought, that the word more commonly meant "bothering" or "harrassing" when the song was written. Still, especially after I lost all faith that they were a spirit-directed organization, the idea that someone was having some fun and slipping in a dirty joke was always in my head when that song would come up.

  During the years when I was a Ministerial Servant, but no longer believed in a god, I used to have this fantasy that that song would end the meeting and I would be called on to say prayer. Since many brothers seem to like to work references to the final song into their prayers (a practice I've always found contrived and corny), I imagined saying something like "Jehovah, we know that Satan's bees will continue behaving as though they were molested, and they will keep coming and coming at us. And no matter how many times they come, we won't stop vigorously beating them off." Of course I never had the courage to do anything of the sort, and certainly wouldn't have gotten away with it if I had. An elderly brother would have gotten the benefit of the doubt, perhaps, but certainly not a twenty-something like me.
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  Announcement: They Clapped!

  by metatron in

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  2. friends

  weird.

  after the letter was read, many clapped.

  i don't know how to interpret that.. .

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  Galileo

  I went to my local hall to see their reaction. They clapped too, and it went on so long, I thought it was a little embarassing. I actually felt bad for them, they were so excited to get this one tiny little scrap of freedom back.