Posts by keinlezard

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Elder Arrest Scaremongering

by jw07 in

last week there was a meeting with all the elders and ministerial servants about responsibility in the kingdom hall and blah blah blah.. one elder brought up a scenario where all the elders were arrested, and we were asked if the meeting would still go on, and how.. this is the second time within a month that i've heard that scenario posed by an elder in my congregation.. does anyone have any idea of the trash being fed to them in letters recently?.

is this a scenario that hq is putting out there, or are the fear mongering convention videos driving their imaginations wild?.

keinlezard

Hello,

Personnaly I think here we have many things.

- first as wrote smiddy the videos of this regional convention.

- second ( and that was in relation with ) all the trials that could becomes a reality after Candace Conti , Jose lopez, ARC and UK about pedophilia problems.

The GB has probably think that the attack is better than defense ... and they prepare congregation for these "armagedon" ( about responsibility in pedophilia affairs )

-Third internet provides huge amount of information and probably ( too ) lesser recruitment of adept ... then the GB try to have form a group of JW that were ready to follow him even in the Hell :(

( Sorry for my english ... hope you will understand :) )

Greetings

21

Who writes Awake! ?

by Drwho in

just a quick question.

who actually writes the awake!

and the watchtower publications ?

keinlezard

Hello From France :)

officially as someone copy here it's a comitee then the GB.

But I remember that I was surprised by opposite Ideas in publications. I think now that in fact first the publication are wrote by anonymous jw and after a member of the GB validate or not.

Another possibility is anonymous writers are pro Morris or pro Lett then when a publication must be validate these anonymous ask to his master to validate it.

It's the only way I could explain what I was feeling when I read some of this shit.

Greetings

23

Any word on the annual meeting?

by careful in

have all the leaks at ny bethel been discovered, or are there still some who are revealing the inner secrets beforehand?

i haven't seen anything here about the annual meeting just a month away now.

anyone have any real info on it?.

keinlezard

Hello,

If headquarter is in warwick ... will they continue at stanley Theater ???

42

JW broadcasting and doubts

by Colinconfused in

hi everyone to cut a long story short, ive been away from the meetings for over 10 years.

i recently reconnected with the congregation and started a study.

cant get my head around all the changes and jw broadcasting.

keinlezard

Hello Collin,

why ? I'm always in this jail :( ... why come back ?

How can you do that ?

Think one minute ... imagine one True Religion , a World with only One religion ( true religion ) This religion affirm some "Truth" and Bible lights

Then day after day , year after year ... these Truth change ... and evan contradict old Truth

Can you think that after 10 years ( only 10 ) This religon is always the True Religion ?

With WT it's the same ... if you have old publication or CDROM look at "electric church" and what the WT think about !

And Today ... WT is one of these "electric church" ! ...

Greetings

36

Three graphs in connection with the Watch Tower's current financial situation

by slimboyfat in

a number of public statements by the governing body indicate that they are experiencing financial difficulty and they have appealed to jws to donate more money.

public information on the financial situation of the watchtower society is limited.

but what does the information they do publish indicate about their situation?

keinlezard

Hello,

I seems to me that WT tells to bethel and pionneer to go back in "congregation" and that the "congregation" must / should take care of these "fired" (from bethels and Brooklyn )

Then, are theses figures up-to-date ?

I mean that how now WT really spend for pionneer and bethelits ?

Another point of view is WT / GB are liars ... how trust their declaration ?

As read on this forum, is the actual situation de cause of change ... lack of money ... but many JW ...

or , lack of JW that cause lack of money , that cause change ... are really JW 8 millions ? or less ?

The same as Scientology ... WT says "we are growing as never before" she cannot print less JW in yearbook statistics :)

( Sorry for my poor English .. hope you understand :) )

Greetings

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Keep the meeting going! (even if somebody's dying)

by TimeBandit in

jw
friends

this is a true story.

it's about a sister named henriette venema.

she was a very loyal jw.

keinlezard

Hello

I don't know henriette , but the attitude of jw doesn't suprise me ...

A 2016 convention in France , Villepinte , Kenneth Flodin tell us he lost his sister when hi arrived in France for the convention ... but what I see was astonishing he was like a "machine" when he talks no emotion, no tears ...

A real JW made by Watchtower Bible and Tract Society incorporated :(

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Trenton NJ Convention... Some Brief mpressions

by Room 215 in

peak attendance (sunday): 5,645; 26 baptized.

general impression: "convention light"-- i.e.

entertainment value:(previously nil) now enhanced by leavening the boring talks with interspersed video.

keinlezard

Hello,

And In France ( Villepinte ) more than 22,000 en round 200 baptized !!!

We had pleasure to see Stephen Lett ... that promise "tribulation" very near :). When he talks , I wonder if he was not prepare the futur "trial" with Australia and all problems with pedophilia around the world ...

And a strange new borg ... "Kenneth Flodin" .. He said, he lost his sister now .. but no "emotions" on his face !

No tears on his eyes,neither in his voice !

Very very strange :(

Is he human ?

Greetings

17

Retracted: "Safety of cardiac surgery without blood transfusion: a retrospective study in Jehovah’s Witness patients"

by OrphanCrow in

i found a retracted medical study that is cited by the bloodless/blood management world.. i wonder when they will get around to recognizing the retraction in the blood management world.

this study is still being used as a reference - the latest study that cited it was published in 2016.. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2044.2009.06232.x/abstract.

notice of retraction the following article from anaesthesia, ‘safety of cardiac surgery without blood transfusion: a retrospective study in jehovah’s witness patients’, by el azab sr, vrakking r, verhage [sic] g and rosseel pmj, published online in wiley online library (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2044.2009.06232.x/full) on 17 march 2010 and in volume 65, number 4, pages 348-52, has been retracted by agreement between three of the named authors (r vrakking, g verhaegh and pmj rosseel), the journal editor-in-chief, steve yentis, and blackwell publishing ltd. the retraction has been agreed following confirmation by the amphia hospital ethics committee that the study did not have ethical approval as claimed.

keinlezard

Hello,

Jwleaks have you got time to put your reference about retractated article ?

And where I can see it ?

Thanks

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Retracted: "Safety of cardiac surgery without blood transfusion: a retrospective study in Jehovah’s Witness patients"

by OrphanCrow in

i found a retracted medical study that is cited by the bloodless/blood management world.. i wonder when they will get around to recognizing the retraction in the blood management world.

this study is still being used as a reference - the latest study that cited it was published in 2016.. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2044.2009.06232.x/abstract.

notice of retraction the following article from anaesthesia, ‘safety of cardiac surgery without blood transfusion: a retrospective study in jehovah’s witness patients’, by el azab sr, vrakking r, verhage [sic] g and rosseel pmj, published online in wiley online library (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2044.2009.06232.x/full) on 17 march 2010 and in volume 65, number 4, pages 348-52, has been retracted by agreement between three of the named authors (r vrakking, g verhaegh and pmj rosseel), the journal editor-in-chief, steve yentis, and blackwell publishing ltd. the retraction has been agreed following confirmation by the amphia hospital ethics committee that the study did not have ethical approval as claimed.

keinlezard

Hello,

Have you got a listing of these articles ... or some more references ...

Thank ...

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The increasing number of the anointed. Comments, anyone?

by dgp in

i'm very much enjoying "the orwellian world of jehovah's witnesses", by heather and gary botting.

now, this excerpt comes very much to the point of this thread, i believe:.

page 145: "still, in 1975 the society clearly feared a continuation of the upward trend in memorial partakers, and in an article entitled "annointing to a heavenly hope - how is it manifest?

keinlezard

thank you ...

We don't have this information yet in French :)