Posts by keinlezard

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How many anointed have come and gone; how many remain?

by Moster in

just wondering if there is any data about how many anointed there were in say 1914, and considering most would have passed 'beyond the veil' already, are the jw's numbers adding up?

we know there are more in 2017 then there were in 2016, but just where are we in the grand total column?.

keinlezard

Hello,

Some years ago I calculate with Watchtower's figure the remained annointed

1931 : 39372

1935 : 52465

1950 : 21619

1953 : 19183

1957 15628

1955 16815

1959 14511
1960 13911
1961 13284
1962 12714
1963 12292
1964 11953
1965 11550
1966 11179
1967 10981
1968 10619
1969 10368
1970 10526
1971 10384
1972 10350
1973 10523
1974 10723
1975 10550
1976 10187

1982 9529

1990 8869
1991 8850
1992 8683
1993 8693
1994 8617
1995 8645
1996 8757
1997 8795
1998 8756
1999 8755
2000 8661
2001 8730
2002 8760
2003 8565
2004 8570
2005 8524
2006 8758
2007 9105
2008 9986
2009 10857
2010 11202
2011 11824
2012 12604
2013 13204
2014 14121

then we could make an hypothesis all annointed of the year 1935 are dead in year 2014 , because an anointed must be baptized and around 20 years old ... then 70 years and 20 years make 90 years old for theses anointed

then we add anointed of 2018 18 500

we have from 1935 , 52 465 anointed and we add 18 500 from 2018 , we have 70965 anointed since 1935 ...

the problem now is the wt pretends that is a """rest""" of anointed ... for me 50 % is not a rest but the half !

best regards

16

750 000$ for KH that will be never constructed ?

by keinlezard in

i watch a video on youtube .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkmvl9yfva4.

at 14:00 they tell that wt take 750 000 $ too a crongregation ... it's so amazing .

keinlezard

Hello,

I Watch a video on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkMVL9YFva4

at 14:00 they tell that WT take 750 000 $ too a crongregation ... it's so amazing

I wonder if it's real ... even I trust this 2 persons ... I've you got another sources ???

Best Regards

73

2 witness rule

by punkofnice in

i'm gobsmacked.. the 7 rock star popes in warwick know darned well that the 2 witness rule allows child rapists to get away with their crime.. geoff (whacko jacko) jackson was at the australian royal commission and should have seen first hand what a vile man made law the 2 witness rule is.. my question is, why do they still insist on this pervert protecting rule?.

i know it's a highly controlling cult but still...........................stuff my old boots, mate!.

the above is more a rhetorical question.

keinlezard

Hello,

I think that GB doesn't need to have something to do with pedophiles, but rather it's a manner to gather jw.

Look at the video of november Gary braux doesn't speak about pedophiles or trials or Royal Commission.

He speaks only about "apostate", in fact he has same approach than Lett , Morris, Splane or Jackson

"There are no pedophiles witin JW organisation"

The aim of this , I think, is to have a hard core of jw , those who are like me or other "normal" person are lost for WT and GB. And the GB know it !!!

Another facts is since .all publications are free.. we could honestly take Swagart trials date , it is obvious the economics model of WT must fall ! Today with all problem they ( GB ) could manage less growth in richest land and big growth in poor land ... but money comes from richest .

At the end they have a chronic shortfall , the only manner to stop that is ( like scientology ) have less member but members that are able to lie , or able to give "fake news"

best regards

PS: don't hesitate to correct my english ... i know i have a poor english :)

6

Thesis on Shunning within Jehovah Witnesses

by keinlezard in

hello, .

juliagutgsell publish her thesis i'm reading it , and found it interresting .

https://vub.academia.edu/juliagutgsell.

keinlezard

Hello,

JuliaGutgsell publish her thesis I'm reading it , and found it interresting

https://vub.academia.edu/JuliaGutgsell

18

2017 Kingdom Hall in Chile with Flag with Meeting

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

finally, after 5 years, we have received footage that shows, unmistakably, that there was a flag in the kingdom hall, while a meeting was happening.here is the video:https://youtu.be/uel3otw6gemi will post this year's pictures below.

this year we had pictures and video of three different kingdom halls with the flag!.

keinlezard

Hello,

Don't understand... chile congregations didn't have 400$ for a fine .. but WT has 4000$/day for his own ??

But , in congregation the fine is "for neutrality" , and the WT fine is for pedophile listing ..

I think the WT has a very strange definition of "high morality" :(

37

Was there really a specific request for money in this week's meeting?

by stuckinarut2 in

i have seen a few comments about this week's meeting.. was there actually a part that specified an actual per-publisher amount that should be donated regularly?.

can this be confirmed please?.

i truly cant believe just how brazen the society seems to be getting - and how desperate they are!.

keinlezard

Hello,

here in France ( near Paris ) the letter was never read !

neither last week nor present week.

There are French people here who listen this letter ?

18

2017 Kingdom Hall in Chile with Flag with Meeting

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

finally, after 5 years, we have received footage that shows, unmistakably, that there was a flag in the kingdom hall, while a meeting was happening.here is the video:https://youtu.be/uel3otw6gemi will post this year's pictures below.

this year we had pictures and video of three different kingdom halls with the flag!.

keinlezard

Hello

bad quality video :(

but quite courageous to make it in KH :)

We see the flag at time 0:58 behind the window

The KH is here. but in Google streetview we didn't see the flags :-(

https://www.google.fr/maps/@-33.5401564,-70.6583425,3a,52.3y,210.44h,94.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-jv0983vNkVbwoMCSHv03A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

18

Another lie. This time from the UK Branch

by alanv in

andrew schofield, a spokesman for jehovah’s witnesses in britain, states: “for almost 60 years, our administrative operations for britain have been located in london.

however, larger facilities became necessary due to the increased demand for bible-related literature and materials.

we began site preparation on the 34-hectare (approx.

keinlezard

Hello,

More than a joke . They are really psychologically ill

remember few years ago there were 4 publication each month , each magazine have 32 pages

the last year december 2012

Avake 41 042 000 ( 84 language)

Watchtower public 42 182 000 in 195 Languages

and now ?

awake 60 240 000 in 18 languages

Watchtower public 61 651 000 in 307 languages ...

but there is a problem

in 2012 there were 2 A + 2 W each month and each with 32 pages in reality

Watchtower print 4 * 32 *2 * 41 000 000 pages a month

125 952 000 000 pages / year

Today with only 16 pages * 12 magazine they should print

656 000 000 of publication

but the last printed magazine report 10 times lesser !!! only 61 000 000 !

It"s a big big lie !

they don't need bigger print facilities .... it's mathematicaly demonstrated :)

16

1950- present PDF Scans of original mailed or literature counter, WTs ?

by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat in

i think these exist ?

has someone created pdf scans of original mailed or literature counter wts?

or have copies of those pdf's?.

keinlezard

Hello,

have you try http://www.watchtowerwayback.org/index.php?static1/la-bibliotheque

here there are many publications ( but in french )

https://sites.google.com/view/lauweriere-christian/

best regards

116

What is behind your choice of forum user name?

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.

there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.

i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.

keinlezard

Hello,

keinlezard ... from German ... no lizard ( my first name on forums and news groups .. but lost my yahoo account :( )

I don't know if you ( english or German too ) have this expression but in France we translate "kein lezard" or "no lizard" by "pas de lézard" and that mean "there is no problem" just because I am really cool ... "There is no problem only solution " :)