Posts by keinlezard

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GDPR: help for PIMOs

by Fay Dehr in

we urgently need to offer "resistance strategy" help to pimos who are likely to be harassed by elders seeking their consent for wtbt$ to leech their data.

what questions could pimos ask elders, that elders would be unable to answer?

(thus buying time, because elder would need to "check with branch").

First, I speak about russian forbid of JW ... and ask how they don't give these data to a governement or police that request an access to data ? Since on the jw site they explain they will obey to such request ...

then I start to speak about armagedon and the persecution , why the GB and WT will facilitate access to my address , phone , and other data to persecute better JW ?

After that , I tell them about ico.org.uk ( I'm french ... but i adapt it :) ) then on "ico" website i first download

https://ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/what-we-do/register-of-data-controllers/download-the-register

In the file ( tthe first is sufficient ) I look for IBSA ( important for following :) ) then I go to the ico search pages

https://ico.org.uk/ESDWebPages/Search?EC=1

I put then the data I found earlier And I have the following page

https://ico.org.uk/ESDWebPages/Entry/Z5281400

The my questions are about the need of such data

personal details
family details
lifestyle and social circumstances
membership details
goods and services
financial details
education and employment details
visual images, personal appearance and behaviour
physical or mental health details
racial or ethnic origin
religious or other beliefs of a similar nature
offences and alleged offences
criminal proceedings, outcomes and sentences
trade union membership

I think Elders don't have answer for such request for my own personal data !

Best Regards

22

Older Watchtowers and Awakes added on jw.org Online library

by AuntBee in

wt back to 1950, aw back to 1970, like the cd rom library... .

why?

lol.

keinlezard

Hello,

I think many thing ...

first stopping CD-ROM production ...

second ... the possibility to modify as they want the contents of old publication

remember the Rama Singh Case where WT change an Awake when Researcher Rama Singh want to assign in justice WT for missuse of his work ...

Best regards

(Don't hesitate to correct my english... )

45

New World Translation REVISED Editions

by Wonderment in

i have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.

here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.

albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .

keinlezard

Hello,

It sound very strange to me ... we heard of French revised version since two or three years ...

And we all know that this version is a translation of the english NWT ...

At almost every assembly we heard about this new version ... even in Watchtower or Awake we have new name and ... but new Bible and new verses ... nothing !

When we know that we have a Bethel in France ... it's a little bit curious ... where are translators ?

Or maybe where are the funds to reprint around 100 000 new version of a 1600 pages ... :)

Best regards

39

My impressions of the cart witnessing

by Sour Grapes in

i have watched tons of youtube videos of our exjdub friends approaching and talking to the jdub manikins at their carts as they give a great witness to the world by sipping their hot lattes, updating their social media, chit chatting to each other, and the most important thing of getting their time in, counting their hours.. when the jw's see someone approach with a camera they do several things, they will turn their backs on the person, or look at the person with a frown and act like the person isn't even there.

the witlesses refuse to answer simple, clear, and precise questions.

when i was an elder i loved to get into discussions and debates with trinitarians, priest, clergymen and those who were born again.

keinlezard

Hello,

just "impression" ?

Yesterday morning ( 19th april 2018 ) , when I go to refuel my bike , near a circle I saw one witness at 8 o'clock, one , alone ... and at this place nobody else ... In fact at this place at any time you can meet 1 or 2 persons every 2 hours :)

It's obvious , cart witnessing exists only to have "hours" and only "hours"

I suspect since the begining of this type of activity , that the first purpose of cart witnessing is to decrease number of magazine.

Why I think that ? Beacause the first time ( in France ) we have this activity , that was when we change from

4 magazine / month to 2 magazine / month ... and after from 32 pages to 16 pages ...

When I was preaching , I saw that nobody stops to see at cart nor to talk with us ...

2 hours spend for nothing only to talk with my "colleague" :)

Best regards

27

The right to record your judicial committee meeting

by UnshackleTheChains in

ok.. we have often heard secret recordings online of jc hearings.

but, what i would like to know is if individuals are entitled to the right of officially recording their judicial hearings?.

supposing i was to attend a judicial committee and i explained up front that i would like to record the proceedings and then place a dictaphone on the table.

keinlezard

Hello,

Here in France you can use this type of evidence.That is, you can record without consentment of other.

The best known case is the "Bettencourt" evidences ( L'oréal)

It depends of the type of trial .."pénal" or "civile" ( I don't know the exact Terms in English )

Best Regards

PS:

An Idea: You can have 2 recorders the first record and a second is a fake :)( Two smart phone for exemple )

Then when you ask for record the judicial committée, the first already record , when they refuse, you turn off the fake recorder :)

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Have Watchtower changed their polices to report to police child sex abuse?

by pleaseresearch in

hi all.

just speaking to a sister about the royal commission.. she said they they have now changed their guidelines so that they now report all to the police.. really?

does anyone know if this is true?.

keinlezard

There is a video on tv.jw.org where Gary Braux said "we never change the 2 witnesses rules".

And in addition, many letters said "call legal departement" first ...

In France, in my congregation an elder says that there where 2 pedophiles affairs

one my wife .. but cannot complain to the authority because of prescription

and another one ...

He said to us , there was 2 month ... but no ... JW of my congregation seem to be concerned by this ...

All seem to be like before this "change" of policy ... in fact .. no change at all !

Best Regards

27

6-BOEs-Just Arrived!

by Atlantis in

2018-03-31-general data protection regulationhttps://we.tl/z1g1kyveqg2018-04-01-assisting in seldom worked territorieshttps://we.tl/vjspmlzrag2018-announcements and remindershttps://we.tl/hz9omncxib2018-consent for personal datahttps://we.tl/wnlmxqfp7n2018-instructions-for-use-of-personal-datahttps://we.tl/c1ftcszyk22018-oclam-may-7--28--answer sheethttps://we.tl/ieggkojrsyatlantis!.

keinlezard

Hello,

the letters was read in France too !

Best regards

27

6-BOEs-Just Arrived!

by Atlantis in

2018-03-31-general data protection regulationhttps://we.tl/z1g1kyveqg2018-04-01-assisting in seldom worked territorieshttps://we.tl/vjspmlzrag2018-announcements and remindershttps://we.tl/hz9omncxib2018-consent for personal datahttps://we.tl/wnlmxqfp7n2018-instructions-for-use-of-personal-datahttps://we.tl/c1ftcszyk22018-oclam-may-7--28--answer sheethttps://we.tl/ieggkojrsyatlantis!.

keinlezard

Hello

It's amazing !!!

What is exactly the purpose ? because after Russia forbid of JW ... this time WT ask for data ...

for me it's contradictory ... if the same thing than in Russia , get in in Europe or USA how WT explain that data of jw will be accessed by gov ?

Or armagedon is near ... or it is not ! And if the WT ask for personal data I understand that is not near :)

Best Regards ( sorry for my poor english )

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Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context

by steve2 in

earlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.

wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!

good effort, jw organization!

keinlezard

Hello,

I had not read the main important thing with these stats

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/

See details of the global preaching work of Jehovah’s Witnesses from September 2016 to August 2017.

I think that these figures doesn't reflect exactly what is happening to the WT ... And I suspect that congregations that was close , continue to exists in these figures ... but in 2019 no need to tell that ... since there will be no year book !

Best regards

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How many anointed have come and gone; how many remain?

by Moster in

just wondering if there is any data about how many anointed there were in say 1914, and considering most would have passed 'beyond the veil' already, are the jw's numbers adding up?

we know there are more in 2017 then there were in 2016, but just where are we in the grand total column?.

keinlezard

Hello,

Some years ago I calculate with Watchtower's figure the remained annointed

1931 : 39372

1935 : 52465

1950 : 21619

1953 : 19183

1957 15628

1955 16815

1959 14511
1960 13911
1961 13284
1962 12714
1963 12292
1964 11953
1965 11550
1966 11179
1967 10981
1968 10619
1969 10368
1970 10526
1971 10384
1972 10350
1973 10523
1974 10723
1975 10550
1976 10187

1982 9529

1990 8869
1991 8850
1992 8683
1993 8693
1994 8617
1995 8645
1996 8757
1997 8795
1998 8756
1999 8755
2000 8661
2001 8730
2002 8760
2003 8565
2004 8570
2005 8524
2006 8758
2007 9105
2008 9986
2009 10857
2010 11202
2011 11824
2012 12604
2013 13204
2014 14121

then we could make an hypothesis all annointed of the year 1935 are dead in year 2014 , because an anointed must be baptized and around 20 years old ... then 70 years and 20 years make 90 years old for theses anointed

then we add anointed of 2018 18 500

we have from 1935 , 52 465 anointed and we add 18 500 from 2018 , we have 70965 anointed since 1935 ...

the problem now is the wt pretends that is a """rest""" of anointed ... for me 50 % is not a rest but the half !

best regards