I am just curious of course. As for "Crisis of Conscience", I checked out at the library.
Quirky1
I am just curious of course. As for "Crisis of Conscience", I checked out at the library.
Quirky1
yesterday, i get a call at work from my old jw buddy, who btw doesn't know my true feelings on religion.
he offers to buy lunch so we go to a local burger joint, sit down, and start swapping stories like always.
we see each other once or twice a week, share many common interests, and generally get along well.
They'll probably even give him a promotion. he might even make PO, CO or DO!
I have seen a lot of different strokes fer different folks when I was in. It's not who you know but who you blow.
Where is the "Unity"?
Quirky1
i have such a difficult time living a double life, i dont hate going to meetings and seeing the friends i just know it is not real and i dont like being there.
but since i can not get my husband (who is also inactive) to just leave for good we go back from time to time.. my older son really hates it all his friends from the hall are either in jail or in a gang it was difficult to keep him in the truth because of seeing so many of his friends doing badly.
i finally allowed him to just have worldly friends and he is fine, in fact some of the jws would ask if their children could come over and spend time with my son and we were not even active.. i know i can never go back to the jws, i realize it is false but i also know that we all need to keep praying to god and i believe that god is jehovah, some people just need to do it in a building and need to belong to a place where people treat them like they are some body.
Jonie,
Quit living the double life. You have to be true to yourself and your heart. It will take time to heal. I know because I am trying to heal myself. I refused to attend the meetings since February 24th and am trying to fade. My wife still attends the meetings and encourages me to do the same. I realized the WTBS was incorrect myself and refuse to follow their doctrine. Try reading "Crisis of Conscience", by Raymond Franz. This will help ease the pain.
There is also tons of other things you can do to fill the void. Go on walks, take a drive thru the country, watch a movie or read a book. Try to get reaquainted with family.
My daughter doesn't beleive it either and usually misses a lot of the meetings but at times will attend for her mothers sake. But. she went to the second day of the two-day assembly this weekend, which is the first one I have ever missed, and came home early. I asked her why and she said it was just a reminder of why she doesn't want to attend. But, she has freinds in there that she still cares for but have the share her same feelings but are forced to go because of the parents or guilt of displeasing them.
My son hasn't been in awhile either and like your son has better associates outside of the religion than the two-faced back stabbers that are in there.
Currently, I am not praying at all. It just brings back bad memories and reminders of the WTBS. I am just hangin' loose.
My heart goes out for you and if you ever need to talk, please do.
Bonz also has some good advice.
Quirky1
although this is my first post under the name journey edge, i have been a member of the board for a few years now.
i just needed to change my identity to avoid being traced.
i left the truth a number of years ago after 20 years in the faith.
Journeys Edge,
I feel for you, but suicide is definitely not the correct action. Even tho I too have contemplated it until I realized it as all about who you are as a person. You have to enjoy what you do and "who" your are with or your just beating your head against a brick wall.
Take much time to think things thru before taking action. Try to get some me time in there and find the spot you enjoy and always reflect on it. I know you need to talk to someone in the "real life". And it is not easy. Especially for those who have lost freinds and family due to the WTS.
I lost all my "real" friends and family when I joined the WTS and am trying to regroup them since my decision to leave the WTS.
But, I also agree that you might want tp pursuade your husband to seek some professional help or advice.
It is definitley not easy being in a relationship, even such as this. I am very familiar with the "constant arguing" all too well.
If you feel the need to vent, please do it here.
Quirky1
should i use my new beard as a way to let jws know i'm firmly faded and am not "discouraged" or otherwise planning on returning any time soon?
or would it be too strong of a statement and make the elders want to hound me?
the memorial is coming up, and while i'm resigned to go yet again, it might be a good time to make a statement.
The first thng I did was resign from an MS in writing, then I grew the goat. No more duties.
Quirky1
"Crisis of conscience", my freind. But I was already seeing holes in it beore I read the book. I was just curious to see if there were pretenders in here.
Quirky1
it was another dreary ubm birthday.
birthday girl was moping around the house, trying to be mature.
but wait -- hubby came home early with a card (a real one with the evil "happy birthday" words on it) and chocolate!
Again, clue me in. What is LMAO?
it was another dreary ubm birthday.
birthday girl was moping around the house, trying to be mature.
but wait -- hubby came home early with a card (a real one with the evil "happy birthday" words on it) and chocolate!
Again, clue me in. What is LMAO?
st.patricks day this year has been changed to today 15th march by the catholic church so that it does'nt coincide with holy monday (17th march for 2008).
although i dont think many will take heed of this change.. www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/st+patricks+day+to+be+moved+in+2008/608847 - 35k.
bit mad as st. patricks day is generally held on the 17th, but as this is the case happy st.patricks day and careful on the guiness.. paul.
I agree wit ya mate! I am happily Irish! (with a little Scottish, German and American Indian) Basically a mutt but me name is Irish.
Quirky1