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I hate the Watchtower but I really still hate the Trinity Jesus is NOT God!

by Witness 007 in

some bibles use the term "worship" when refering to jesus...at times people did fall down and bow to him........this doesn't show he was god!

the greek term; proskeyneo, means to prostrate oneself, to bow down and show honour.

now, this was done for jehovah.....and his representatives....jesus israelite kings and priests....but for the honour of jehovah not as creature worship which even angels would refuse.. also i studied the non-biblical early church gospels which really does show a slow decline over 150 years, into the trinity as the watchtower claims...........although i still hate the watchtower society at least i learnt something that wasn't a lie..

childofGod

John 1:18 states 'No man has seen God at any time, the only-begotten god (Jesus) who is in the bosom position with (not as) the Father is the one that has explained him. Now we all know that because Jesus was here on earth that many have seen Jesus, right? So if that's the case how can he be God if there at John 1:18 it says no man has seen God at any time (in heavenly or earthy position). Also John 17:3 Jesus makes a clear distinction between himself and his heavenly Father. There he calls his Father 'the only true God'. Jesus could not and would not have made this statement if, as the Trinity doctrine teaches, Jesus and the holy spirit were God to the same degree as the Father. At Matthew 24:36 it reads regarding God's great day, 'concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens, nor the Son,but only the Father.' This scripture discredits the Trinity teaching which states that all tree (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) are equal. If all were one and equal would not the Son also know the day and hour? 1Corinthians 11:3 states '...the head of the Christ is God'. If the Father and Son are equal how could one be head of the other? And the best scripture to refute the trinity is John 5:19 where Jesus himself specifically states '...I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am.'

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ok so who exactly is going to the memorial this year....and why?

by Cordelia in

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i am, my dad is doing it, i'm going to their hall theyve just moved there (to 'help' out).

i figured its the one meeting i can't miss as i upset them by not going to any others at all, also ive made a point of not going to my hall and i won't let anyone know i'm at my dads.

my dad is actually worried i might 'be apostate' about it, as i once said surely passing on the bread and wine is like saying 'no thanks jesus!

childofGod

I did not know this was a bash the Jehovah's Witnesses Forum. I apologize for intruding but before I leave I would like to say a few things. I believe that if someone is a JW and decide that it is not right for them then fine, make your choice as you all have and leave it at that. When you get to the point of criticizing someones worship to God; that's a sin in itself. I believe that JW's are a good group of people, they teach what is in the Bible not what they believe should be in the Bible. How can anyone bash a group who live their life so close to what the Bible teaches. True there are some who don't, as some bring up the pedophiles. But that's in all religions; some more than others. But we know that each and ev1 of us are imperfect beings.

The Bible says that there will be those who rise up among Christians and turn apostate and try to turn others away from the truth. I don't know about any of you but I wouldn't dare want to be considered that person. My heart goes out to all of you and I'll pray for you all. It's natural we will come across one or two and sometimes maybe half a congregation that do not live their life according to the Bible, but these are the times we're living in; critical times hard to deal with and things are only getting worse. Satan is doing everything in his power to turn as many of Jehovah's people away from Him as he can. Satan knows he has a short time left and he's showing it; working ever so hard to throw whatever obstacles he can in front of us all. Proverbs 27:11 says we should make His (God's) heart rejoice so that he can make a reply to Satan. I'm not trying to preach to anyone at this point but I do ask that you all, as well as myself, continuously examine yourselves.

From very young I was brought up in the truth, but at the age of 26 I allowed room for Satan and it resulted in my being disfellowshipped. When that happened my life just got worse I cried myself to sleep nightly. It had nothing to do with being cut off from the congregation or family because half my family still associated with me. My feeling terrible and lost was because I had lost my relationship with God. For a while I tried to make myself feel better by making myself believe that I didn't have to be a JW. I never bashed JW's I just made myself content with not going to the meetings. I was disfellowshipped for 10 years and I thank God that soon I came across a WT magazine and the minute I read it I couldn't deny it any longer. I resumed going to the meetings and then Hurricane Katrina happened. I prayed fervently to Jehovah to keep me, my husband and our 3 kids (7,6,4) safe. After the storm we were able to pull ourselves together buy our home and get settled in a new state. I continued to pray to Jehovah for help and guidance and sure 'nuff one of the Witnesses knocked on my door. From there it's history, I have been reinstated and I feel so alive, invigorating, and refreshed. I feel closer to God than I have ever felt.

What I think happens to most of us when we leave the truth is we don't examine ourselves before making decisions. We get to the point that we want to blame everything and everyone else for what we have gone through instead of looking at what we have done wrong to cause it. Those of us who were disfellowshipped; all the while it was happening to others, we had no problems with it. BUT when it happened to us we just can't understand why they had to disfellowship us. So we start blaming the brothers, the congregation, the religion for something we basically brought on ourselves. We must remember that it is Jehovah whom we are striving to please not man and Jehovah can read our hearts so there's no reason for us not to be true with ourselves because what it all boils down to is our being judged based on our doing not anyone elses.

Again I pray that you all search your hearts and pray to God that he allow his holy spirit to guide you to the right path/course of life.

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How Many Here Are Born Again Christians Now?

by lovelylil in

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just wondering how many ex -jw's have become born again christians and whether or not this happened while you were still in the wt organization?

also, what is your experience now with god and christ?

** please non-believers, lets not use this thread to bash christianity again, or do the whole is there god/not god discussion all over again.

childofGod

I just wanted to comment on the comment that 'what religion one attend doesn't matter'. Judges 10:6, 7 states and the sons of Israel again proceeded to do what was bad in God's eyes, and they began to serve the Baals and Ashtoreth images and the gods of Syria and the gods of Sidon, Moab, Ammon and Philistines. So they left the true God and did not serve him. At this the true God's anger blazed against Israel, so that he sold them into the hand of the Philistines and into the hand of the sons of Ammon.

This scripture helps us to appreciate that if one worships any thing or person other than the true God, our Creator of the heaven and earth, his form of worship will not be acceptable to God.