Posts by logic&reason

Then by sheer accident I followed up on the 607/587 discrepancy. I say it was an accident because I didn't set out to question the society, I just wanted to know why there was a difference. When I found out the truth, that the WTS has basically made up there own history, I started questioning other details. The deeper into the rabbit whole I went, the more I understood that they manufacture facts and twist reality to bolster their flawed doctrine.

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Calling all atheists, agnostics, believers, and seekers! A must hear.....

by journey-on in

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http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/229.

the above website was posted by zensim on the thread about indigo children.

the site has nothing to do.

logic&reason

Very interesting take...

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Anyone heard about the bookstudy being canceled?

by oneairhead in

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made you look, sucker!.

lol.

logic&reason

Maybe we should start our own book study.

no, wait a minute, we can't... the 9/2007 KM put the brakes on that.

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2009 year text

by JimmyPage in

the wtbts is trying to decide on a year text for 2009. here are the scriptures they are trying to choose from: ecc.

12:12: "to the making of many books there is no end and much devotion to them is wearisome to the flesh.

" luke 18:11: "o god i thank you that i am not as the rest of men, extortioners, unrighteous, adulterers, or even as this tax collector.

logic&reason

I second the vote for Nathan's choice... but in true WTBTS / NWT fashion, I want to add something to the scripture (and it will be ok because I'll use square brackets...)

Jeremiah 20:7 :You have fooled me, O Jehovah ['s Witnesses], so that I was fooled. You used your strength against me, so that you prevailed. I became an object of laughter all day long; everyone is holding me in derision.

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4 the Faders. How did u get out leading the cong in prayer while fading?

by blkblk13 in

i've always had serious doubts but now that i am @ a point in my life were my parents have helped me to purchase my first place and now that i am no longer under their wing i feel like i am in a position to start doing something about it.

nothing drastic but just the beginnings of a gradual fade b/c i don't want to humiliate them in the circuit b/c they r very well-known and admired in the circuit, plus i owe them alot and am still a little financially dependent on them.

so my dad is an elder and conducts the bookstudy.

logic&reason

Has everyone seen the movie "Super Troopers"? When they would compete to see who could say "meow" the most times when they pulled someone over for a ticket.

It would be funny to see how many times you could say "meow" in a prayer.

"...and thank you for the faithful and discreet slave *meow* who give us our food at the proper time... and *meow* as we consider this fine information this evening..."

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4 the Faders. How did u get out leading the cong in prayer while fading?

by blkblk13 in

i've always had serious doubts but now that i am @ a point in my life were my parents have helped me to purchase my first place and now that i am no longer under their wing i feel like i am in a position to start doing something about it.

nothing drastic but just the beginnings of a gradual fade b/c i don't want to humiliate them in the circuit b/c they r very well-known and admired in the circuit, plus i owe them alot and am still a little financially dependent on them.

so my dad is an elder and conducts the bookstudy.

logic&reason

I have tried several things... but nothing seems to work. I refuse to wear a suit coat anymore. That prevents prayer at the hall, but the book study is a different animal. I tried not buttoning the top button of my shirt, and leaving my tie loose. They still get me to read and say prayers. I "forget" to shave sometimes... they still ask.

It's odd, because when I was younger, and wanted to do more in the hall, every little detail was scrutinized. I was reamed out by an elder once because I wore a sport coat (and not a suit) on a night when I was giving a talk.