having been a jehovah's witness for 28 years any and everyone here could have been in my congregation with no thought of discent...and yet here we all are here...some time in our past we realized something was wrong with our belief system but you would have never known it with the ones you shared your beliefs with...i never dreamed i would ever leave much less find a community struggling with the same issues i did but we did and are all here...kind of surreal in a strange way...who would have known...
I still find it amazing that the trauma of having been a dub transcends all our present-day differences.
Where else do born-again Christians, atheists, right and left wingers, Wiccans, Buddhists, and schizo Bible babblers keep coming back to talk to one another?
That we stay together, despite squabbles, speaks volumes about the WTS and its treatment of its adherents. It's almost like we're all old war buddies.
You really said it so well, parakeet.
A common enemy makes fast friends.
i'm giving you until a 3:00 pm deadline to listen to this phone recording and post your thoughts on it.. http://www.holytaco.com/2008/06/27/the-douchiest-phone-message-in-history/.
in all my years of studying douchebaggery, never have i encountered anything like this.
its such pure and unadulterated douche that i wish i could bottle it and use just a drop of it at a time.. the back story on this is that a girl named olga was out with her friends in the marina district of san francisco (known for being a popular hang out for douches), and she talked to this guy named dmitri for all of two minutes.
Sounds like he read one of those books that try to help men get a date by being a take-charge kind of guy.
the 1980's was certainly a strange time for rock groups, and musical development.
lots of techno, beginnings of alternative , and some rock n' roll groups trying to push along.
what were your favorites ?
Journey, Heart. I liked the Cars, but they didn't interact with the crowd one iota.
i found this youtube video very entertaining and enlightening..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbjxhljc6ko.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq12p-g1560.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5dm4g9btlw.
I don't believe I've ever heard the f words used in that cadence.
What was Joe's problem? Did he just want to get his mug on camera? Good lord, don't those attendants know the world is going to see how they acted? Most jw's I know have the very mistaken notion that staying calm and cool means they are a peacemaker.
From what I saw, Tim did not deserve what they did to him at all. Although he could have deserved that towel-beating from his aunt for playing the Knack.
does the bible say anything about people marrying other races???
im white, and my boyfriend is iraqi, is this okay?
Star, I'm sorry for how some have treated you; new ones are usually warmly welcomed. Sometimes we just don't read the posts well enough and then are not able to be helpful. Most of us see what the question was and I'm glad you got the help you needed.
I guess a troll is someone who is insincere just posting something to get a rise out of someone. I never thought that about you.
Most here are anti-watchtower ( not necessarily Jehovah) because of the horribly injust way they were treated by people that were supposed to lovingly shepherd them. Please stick around a while; you may find information that could be useful to you.
does the bible say anything about people marrying other races???
im white, and my boyfriend is iraqi, is this okay?
Welcome to the board.
If you just need a scripture for your grandmother, 1 Corinthians 7:39 says to marry only in the lord, so you have that covered.
I used this on my very bigoted family one time, when they were running their mouths. They didn't like it, but they didn't try to argue, either.
my disfellowshipped dad told me leaving "the truth" had not been good for me as i used too much profanity and liked to drink.
when i first became "free" i guess i went overboard with profanity and enjoyed the freedom to go to bars if i wanted.
they were novelties.
I had a really ingrained habit of bad language before I became a JW. Of course I went right back to it when I got out. I try not to ever say anything in front of people though. It mostly happens when I'm frustrated with something I'm trying to do.
I don't like the f word (unlike Hortensia ) but it might occasionally slip out when I'm trying to open a jar. Now my grandkids are moving nearby and I've got to get it under control again.
I never drank much. I actually feel like I need to drink more, just in case there might be some health benefits.
http://www.thesecret.tv/optimists-creed/.
i promise myself.
to be strong that nothing can disturb my peace of mind.
Great post, ltf.
I agree, Casper. Learning to be grateful can start to change your life.
The last couple of days I've been hoping someone would start a positive thread. Must be that law-of-attraction thing. I'm going to go to bed now and end up on a good note.
when you go to someone's house all the time and they feel hatred toward you.
i do remember that scripture, someone showed me in the past.
prov. 25:17
Make your foot rare at the house of your fellowman, that he may not have his sufficiency of you and certainly hate you.
so i stubled on the following image on gbletters site.
you have to love how the watchtower uses circular reasoning quoting from older watchtower articles to reinforce their points.
i thought i would have a look myself to see what the toast signifies and its history this was very surprising.
The only thing I can really remember about toasting was that the witnesses always said it had to do with the superstition of the clinking glasses keeping evil spirits away and that's why they would not join in.
I read an article a few years ago much the same as those on the poisoning. Except I think the host and guest extended their drinks to trade them, and if the host was trusted, they just clinked instead. Well that made sense to me - nothing to do with superstition. So I never had a problem with it after that.
