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Expectation vs Reality
by joey jojo in.
just wanted to put this out there for any lurkers.. as someone that grew up during the 70s and 80s, we were promised that we would be in the first picture long ago.
if you are still on the fence, please let this sink in for a while..
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P. Ms Letter to non subscibers to Redress Scheme
by jonahstourguide inspotted this article this morning.
i will try to post a link.. jtg.. australia.. institutions refusing to join the national redress scheme are "doubling down" on the crime of child sexual abuse, prime minister scott morrison says.. mr morrison and social services minister anne ruston have warned institutions they may lose funding and tax concessions if they fail to sign up by tuesday's deadline and will be named and shamed.. "all institutions are doing in not joining is doubling down on the crime and doubling down on the hurt," they said in a letter to 25 institutions.. "we consider it to be reprehensible that you have failed to sign up to the scheme.".
the jehovah's witnesses is among the organisations that has refused to sign up, arguing it does not have the institutional settings of other faith-based institutions that the redress scheme is designed to cover.. senator ruston is set to name the non-participating institutions on wednesday, when she will announce what action the federal government will take against them.. "we urge you to join the scheme not because of concerns about being identified, but because it is the right thing to do," the minister and mr morrison said.. "it is the right thing to do by survivors and their families and it is what every, decent, honest, australian demands.".
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Finkelstein
I thought the JWS had a set doctrine which stated that they were to obey governmental authorities , they even use to quote a scripture to that effect ???
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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!
by Beth Sarim ini don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.
omg!!!
just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.
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Finkelstein
There is so much that happened in that area of the middle east between kingdoms in that specific era with Nebuchadnezzar and his opponents, saying that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 BCE is quite an impossibility from secular knowledge (archaeology) and from information from the bible itself, that the year was indeed 586 BCE.
The Siege of Jerusalem was a military campaign carried out by Nebuchadnezzar II, king of Babylon, in 597 BC. In 605 BC, he defeated Pharaoh Necho at the Battle of Carchemish, and subsequently invaded Judah. According to the Nebuchadnezzar Chronicle, King Jehoiakim of Judah rebelled against Babylonian rule, but Nebuchadnezzar captured the city and installed Zedekiah as ruler.
Siege[edit]
To avoid the destruction of Jerusalem, King Jehoiakim of Judah, in his third year, changed his allegiance from Egypt to Babylon. He paid tribute from the treasury in Jerusalem, some temple artifacts and some of the royal family and nobility as hostages.[1] In 601 BC, during the fourth year of his reign, Nebuchadnezzar unsuccessfully attempted to invade Egypt and was repulsed with heavy losses. The failure led to numerous rebellions among the states of the Levant which owed allegiance to Babylon, including Judah, where King Jehoiakim stopped paying tribute to Nebuchadnezzar[2] and took a pro-Egyptian position.
Nebuchadnezzar soon dealt with these rebellions. According to the Nebuchadnezzar Chronicle,[3] he laid siege to Jerusalem, which eventually fell on 2 Adar (March 16) 597 BC. The Chronicle states:
In the seventh year [of Nebuchadnezzar, 598 BC] in the month Chislev [November/December] the king of Babylon assembled his army, and after he had invaded the land of Hatti (Syria/Palestine) he laid siege to the city of Judah. On the second day of the month of Adar [16 March] he conquered the city and took the king [Jeconiah] prisoner. He installed in his place a king [Zedekiah] of his own choice, and after he had received rich tribute, he sent forth to Babylon.[4]
Jehoiakim died during the siege, possibly on 22 Marcheshvan (December 10) 598 BC,[5] or during the months of Kislev,[6] or Tevet.[7] Nebuchadnezzar pillaged the city and its Temple, and the new king Jeconiah, who was either 8 or 18, and his court and other prominent citizens and craftsmen, and much of the Jewish population of Judah, numbering about 10,000 were deported to Babylon.[8] The deportation occurred prior to Nisan of 597 BC, and dates in the Book of Ezekiel are counted from that event.[9] A biblical text reports, "None remained except the poorest people of the land". Also, taken to Babylon were the treasures and furnishings of the Temple, including golden vessels dedicated by King Solomon (2 Kings 24:13–14).
The events are described in the Nevi'im and Ketuvim sections of the Tanakh or Hebrew Bible, also known as the Old Testament (2 Kings 24:10–16). The first deportation was the start of the exile and of the Jewish Diaspora.
Nebuchadnezzar installed Jeconiah's uncle, Zedekiah as puppet-king of Judah, and Jeconiah was compelled to remain in Babylon.[10] The start of Zedekiah's reign has been variously dated within a few weeks before,[11] or after [12][13] the start of Nisan 597 BC.
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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!
by Beth Sarim ini don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.
omg!!!
just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.
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Finkelstein
Why is it when you evaluate and examine religion with facts, data, logic and rational thought they fall apart rapidly, looking falsely contrived ?
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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!
by Beth Sarim ini don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.
omg!!!
just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.
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Finkelstein
There is so much documented events that happened between the dating of the WTS's (607) that what most secular knowledge has dated the final destruction of Jerusalem (586) it would be an improbability for the WTS's date to be correct.
The leaders of the WTS were just poorly educated speculators that wanted 1914 to be a significant year no matter, they intentionally dismissive from even the bible's own information..
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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!
by Beth Sarim ini don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.
omg!!!
just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.
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Finkelstein
In a theological sense when the leader/s of the WTS proclaimed that god had chosen them in 1919, that in itself was an act of blasphemy since these men were already active apostates (false prophets) according to scripture..
If one were to evaluate the JWS religion as being false, this a clear indication of that fact from a biblical viewpoint.
This religion is a formulated false religion inspired from sinning apostate charlatans.
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Rolf Furuli New Book
by dozy infor those who haven't come across furuli before , he is a 77 year old norwegian professor and is ( or was ) one of the few "scholarly" jws used by the society and used as a source on various matters ( especially 607 bce ).. however recently he has fallen out with the gb and has published an interesting book - like many recent scholarly apologists , he seems to be going down the road of disagreeing with the authority of the gb but still holding that the jws is the one true religion.
kind of "lions led by donkeys".
whether this view will continue is anyones guess.
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Finkelstein
Furuli sounds like a self righteous arrogant dick , both when he was a full fledged JWS and now out of the Org.
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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!
by Beth Sarim ini don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.
omg!!!
just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.
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Finkelstein
Isn't it getting quite obvious that 1914 was a theological scam that wasn't even supported in the bible if one were pay close attention to Jesus own words " Of The Time " ?
Perhaps hyped with emotions and expectations but really was an act of apostasy from a biblical perspective.
The WTS heads took it as if you believe it then you could be useful to them in expanding the organization with them on top controlling everything, including the incoming money.
The WTS leaders made their own doctrinal problem, when they firmly proclaimed that the generation who witnessed the events of 1914 would not pass away.
Well they all did .
So from all that been seen by the JWS , Jehovah exclusively picked sinning apostate charlatans as his earthly chosen anointed ones.
Over 100 years after 1914 a bit controversial it would seem .
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Why this guy Jehovah Makes No Sense, Or the Reasons Why I don't serve Him Anymore!
by 1234 inthere are many....i just couldn't get my head around.. these are a few.. 1. this blood thirsty god that had no problem killing/genociding men women, children and even their farm animals to made a point.
as delmar said in oh brother where art thou "not the livestock!".
8,500,000,00 on the planet and 8,500,000 jehovah;s witnesses.
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Finkelstein
Answer = because Yahweh is a mythological invention inherently from "men" a lone.
Men envisioned and composed their god(s) to the way they wanted and appealed to their understanding of occurring events on earth, as well to create a desirable relationship with these/their envisioned god(s).
Mind you humanity in ancient times didn't have the informational background knowledge of how and why things occurred to themselves or what they visual saw and witnessed.
Those men witnessed enduring perilous things in their living experience, including their own eventual and foreseeable death, so (their) gods were a consoling and appealing answer for help, since in the acceptance and understanding the gods were actively controlling what was happening to them..
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Finkelstein
One thing I noticed in regards to the forum is that it has gotten more radically volatile in discussing non JWS topics such as politics and there is more of it too possibly due to the rehashing over relevant JWS subject matters.
I've been on this forum for over 16 years with a previous ID name and I've seen the forum evolve over the years.
In some ways I wish it would go back to the way it was previously where congenial respect was more enforced, present and regulated.