Posts by Bring_the

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Why does an atheist have to disprove anything?

by digderidoo in

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i have noticed alot of debate in posts lately between an atheist argument and a christian one.

it seems to me that the atheist is asked to disprove god's existence.

some times these debates have started to get personal with one side attacking the other with insults and i do not want to start another argument like these.. but i dont get it?

Bring_the_Light

I have noticed alot of debate in posts lately between an atheist argument and a christian one. It seems to me that the atheist is asked to disprove God's existence. Some times these debates have started to get personal with one side attacking the other with insults and i do not want to start another argument like these.
But i dont get it? Why should atheists have to defend themselves for believing God doesn't exist? As there is no hard evidence for an existence in God, surely it should be the Christian who would have to defend his stance.
Paul

The real question is "What is the meaning/origin/purpose/fate of life"? People who would argue with an athiest are basically saying that just because you don't think the answer is "there is a humanoid supernatural person who did all this and is watching us now", that does not mean an Athiest can dodge the "well what is the answer then? retort.

For many people, like myself, whatever the answer is, is "god". There is some story, some chain of events, some truth that really happened to cause me to be here now. Whatever that truth is is "creation" whatever "originated" the happening is "god", that doesn't mean I disagree with Athiests about anything. Athiests get the same treatment as the religious from me. I don't know, and you don't either, so wipe that air of certainty off your face, roll up your sleeves and really work on the question like I do. No hand waving allowed.

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A year ago today

by wings in

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i posted for the first time on jwd.. thank you for putting up with me, and for being there for me.. what a difference a year makes........... i love you all!!!!

!.

Bring_the_Light

The beauty of the internet is its pure thought. No social norms, no physical judgements, no awkward unease. Just human brains, shouting their thoughts out into the ether to be heard by other human brains. I've posted on a politicalish site for many years. At first it wasn't much other than shouting my views for myself, then you start to really hear and meet people. Then you wonder if its "wierd" that "internet people" have become some of your better friends, then you realize that this medium is in many, many ways BETTER than the kinds of friends you can maintain the the oxygen filled world. There are so few circumstances where you can get in a room with other people and really chew the fat. Even when you do get the chance, it doesn't get as detailed or nuanced as you can get when posting in prose like this.

I'm brand new here. I'm getting so much out of this so far that I'm regretting that I spent years screaming at Europeans about the liberation of Iraq, when the real reason why I've become such a Patriot and freedom freak is from my JW experience. I know what freedom means. I owe my students4democracy.org buddies an essay on the nexus between my struggling out of the JW world and my almost-unbalanced views about freedom, and how important it is.

It is a pleasure to just barely know you all, including our birthday girl here. May we share many birthdays, Christmases and Bar-mitvehs (sp?) together as we proudly carry the flag of mental and emotional freedom (erm, any freedom related battle I can win will be a nice change of pace from Iraq)

Bring_the_Light

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What are your fears?

by Bumble Bee in

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i remember growing up we were told not to voice our fears outloud, lest satan hear them and use it against us during the gt.

as a result i grew up pretending i wasn't afraid of anything, that i was the strong one, which is sooooo far from the truth!

lol i have learned that i am stronger than i thought i was, but there is a part of me that just once would love someone else to deal with the fears and tell me it's all going to be ok. .

Bring_the_Light

I remember growing up we were told not to voice our fears outloud, lest Satan hear them and use it against us during the GT.

WTF? NEVER heard of that. It sounds like some crazy Catholic bedtime story! Was there perchance a Bible verse citation behind this? Official teaching of the Filthful and Disgraced Slavekeeper? I really never heard of it. I seem to remember a de-emphasis of either God or Satan "doing anything" in this world, the world is Satan's world, but in a sorta non-hands-on kinda way, God is responsible for good things, but in a "not actually doing anything" kinda way.

I'm afraid of non-lucid people of all kinds, especially religious ones. I feel like most people are half-crazy to start with, I fear waking up one day, and having the people around me completely losing touch and losing all hope of lucid human shared experience, like everyone becoming JW's for instance.

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are men better listeners, or women?

by wings in

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friends

just a question.

i'll withhold my answer for now.

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Bring_the_Light

As far as I know, we don't listen with our genitalia...

Ha! You'd be amazed what can be done with genitalia if you give it a shot.

The Penis is the most useful tool in the world. Women keep thinking they can do man-things, chyah! sometimes I just think to myself "How're going going to to THAT without a PENIS!?!". Women can get by, but without the right tools for the job, its a struggle I'm sure.

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