I cannot believe this has only been reviewed 804 times.
This is a huge news story and hardly anyone seems to be viewing it or talking about it!
BTTT for Mr. Saunders, Mr. Toth and Mr. Hughes for coming forward and speaking up.
Posts by hawkaw
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29Canadians - Watch National Post
by Uzzah inon either saturday or monday for a very powerful article regarding the jw's.. more to follow.
uzzah.
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Excellent Article Examining JW Policy On Blood Fractions!
by bjc2read inhi,.
for those among us here who find the current jw blood policy inconsistent, namely which allows for the use of blood fractions for members, but not the use of whole blood in transfusions, the following article presents i believe, an excellent argument examining the current situation facing rank and file members today.
here is the link: jehovah's witnesses are now taking blood!.
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thetrueone:
You are correct and I believe there is a famous Supreme Court case in Canada that discusses this. I believed it involved parents who refused to give insulin to their kid. I forget the name of the case off the top of my head and I am way too busy to go look it up. In a nut shell the health of a minor trumps the parent's religion or article 2a of Canada's charter.
The Criminal Code of Canada just like the penal codes in the various states have sections of this stuff.
Later.
hawk
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Hemodilution: A new secret change in blood Policy ?
by chasson intake a look at the forum of noblood.org, a website maintaining by some jw like larry eitel and jan b. wade (this last is a founder of sabm too).
jan b. wade made here a curious remark concerning hemodilution:.
"there has been some refinement in what a jehovah's witness patient may or may not accept.
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hawkaw
Not to burst your bubble too much but isovolemic hemodilution and intraoperative autotransfusions (cell salvage) have been allowed for some time.
Please note http://www.ajwrb.org/basics/what.shtml
Frankly, these are whole or red blood cell tranfusions. It may not be from the donated blood supply but it is still a transfusion of your own blood.
So ask yourself .... does the leadership promote a policy whereby Jehovah's Witnesses abstain from blood?
Please tell a friend about www.ajwrb.org to prevent premature death.
hawk
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WT BLOOD GUILT EXPOSED TO THE WORLD
by DannyHaszard inparents don't get a moral pass.
toronto star, canada - 3. even the discovery that their parents were devout jehovah's witnesses and is there any other kind of watchtower congregant?
raised only faint alarm ... rosie [email protected] the author.
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hawkaw
I have done very little as I am not really available much of the time any more. It's people like Kerry, Barb, Danny, Lawrence, those at AJWRB and all of those here who are doing the great work.
Nothing like a vaccination campaign.
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hawkaw
ROTFLMAO .....
Wow that looks so similar.
So first he was a waiter/cook, then counsel and now actor ...
Give that man an OSCAR for the best at "Omiting Facts" !!!!!
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hawkaw
Mr. Hawk
Thank you for your letter. I am passing it along to our reporter in Winnipeg, Michelle MacAfee.
Lorraine Turchansky
Prairies News Editor
Canadian Press and Broadcast News
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WT BLOOD GUILT EXPOSED TO THE WORLD
by DannyHaszard inparents don't get a moral pass.
toronto star, canada - 3. even the discovery that their parents were devout jehovah's witnesses and is there any other kind of watchtower congregant?
raised only faint alarm ... rosie [email protected] the author.
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hawkaw
Mr. Hawk
Thank you for your letter. I am passing it along to our reporter in Winnipeg, Michelle MacAfee.
Lorraine Turchansky
Prairies News Editor
Canadian Press and Broadcast News
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hawkaw
To:[email protected]
Subject: Comment on Winnipeg report - JW Teen Loses Fight to refuse Blood transfusions
As an advocate for many JWs who have been hurt by this organization, I just wish to thank you for the CP article on this issue. Please also pass on my thanks to the reporter who did this story.
You and your reporter may wish to review the press release by the Associated Jehovah’s Witnesses for Reform on Blood (www.ajwrb.org ) - http://www.ajwrb.org/Press_Release_070202.pdf on the sextuplets case in B.C. I believe your CP reporters in B.C. who have been dealing with the sextuplets case have received this news release for their files.
A lot of people do not realize that JWs can take one hundred (100) percent of human or animal blood as long as it is in their leadership's defined fractionated form or under their leadership's approved medical procedures (www.ajwrb.org ). In fact, if whole donated blood was 100 percent fractionated and then transfused completely back to the patient at the same time in its separate forms, the JW leadership would accept the procedure. Unfortunately the technique has not been mastered in the medical world to save Witness lives. On page 22 of the June 15, 2004 Watchtower magazine (official publication for the Witnesses), the leadership actually provides a chart of what is and what is not acceptable.
Oddly, the leadership also allows Witnesses to take in white blood cells from another human during the course of a baby breast feeding from the mother but bans certain life saving white blood cell transfusions from the donated blood supply. The JW leadership does not discuss allowing white blood cell transfers during breast feeding while banning white blood cell transfers through transfusion therapy. You may wish to quiz the JW leadership or spokesperson on the issue. If leadership representatives tell you that breast feeding is natural and transfusions are not natural, remind them that their own official policy found in the June 1, 1990 and June 15, 2000 Watchtower magazines allow albumin (part of plasma) transfusions because albumin “naturally” travels between fetus and mom during gestation.
This leadership has been changing their doctrine many times (http://www.ajwrb.org/history/index.shtml#modern ). In fact the leadership supported blood therapy before 1940.
Today, the leadership bases their interpretation on certain science and medicine literature more than the Bible. In support of its logic, the leadership sites the breakdown of blood in "Emergency Care" (a textbook for emergency medical technician students). The Associated Jehovah's Witnesses for Reform on Blood (www.ajwrb.org ) indicate that scientifically, the breakdown is neither authoritative nor definitive. Alternatively, consider the list of major blood components as listed in Modern Blood Banking and Transfusion Practices (pages 237-248, 1999) by Denise M. Harmening, Ph.D. "Red blood cells, RBC Aliquots, Leukocyte-reduced red blood cells, frozen - deglycerolized red blood cells, platelet concentrate, single donor plasma, cryoprecipitated antihemophilic factor, granulocyte concentrates, factor VIII concentrate, porcine factor VIII, factor IX concentrate (Prothrombin Complex), immune serum globulin, normal serum albumin, plasma protein fraction, Rho(D) immunoglobulin, antithrombin III concentrate". It is noteworthy that of the sixteen major blood components listed in this definitive and widely respected textbook on transfusion medicine, nine are definitely permitted by Jehovah's Witnesses policy.
Just think about haemoglobin for a second. Ninety seven (97) percent by weight of a red blood cell (ie. haemoglobin) is allowed to be used by a JW in a medical procedure but add just three (3) more percent (ie. a membrane) and the product is banned.
You may wish to ask the leadership where in the Bible does it state red blood cells, white blood cells, platelets or plasma are not approved blood therapies but haemoglobin, albumin and the many other blood therapy products or blood transfusion therapies such as Intraoperative Autotransfusion (http://www.ajwrb.org/basics/what.shtml ) are allowed?
No one wants blood therapy if it can be avoided. But, there are times when this procedure helps to sustain life and prevent premature death as any medical doctor will tell you. Since the leadership is asking their members to make a life sacrifice or face harmful shunning by families and friends, it is important for the leadership to be honest and transparent on what they teach.
A lot of times the lawyers for the JW family (which in reality are from the Watchtower's Georgetown Ontario complex) will comment about how blood is very dangerous or that it is not medically necessary. A lot of people buy into the argument. A lot of times people including the press miss the point that blood transfusions are life saving therapies that save thousands of lives every year and that the past stored blood crisis was not caused by the blood itself but by certain individuals who decided not to properly test the blood.
If you would like to speak to a lawyer knowledgeable on the subject please contact Kerry Louderback-Wood at xxx She has already provided information in a recent CP story on the sextuplets and published a lengthy legal report on the issue in the United States of America.
Take care and feel free to contact me if you need something further, -
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WT BLOOD GUILT EXPOSED TO THE WORLD
by DannyHaszard inparents don't get a moral pass.
toronto star, canada - 3. even the discovery that their parents were devout jehovah's witnesses and is there any other kind of watchtower congregant?
raised only faint alarm ... rosie [email protected] the author.
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hawkaw
I have sent some letters to CBC, CJOB and Winnipeg Free Press thanking them for their story and saying similar things as I said above with a little tweaking.
If I can figure out who wrote the story at CP I will also send them something as well.
Later
hawk
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WT BLOOD GUILT EXPOSED TO THE WORLD
by DannyHaszard inparents don't get a moral pass.
toronto star, canada - 3. even the discovery that their parents were devout jehovah's witnesses and is there any other kind of watchtower congregant?
raised only faint alarm ... rosie [email protected] the author.
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hawkaw
February 5, 2007
Dear Chris Selley and the Editor:
As an advocate for many JWs who have been hurt by this organization, I just wish to say your article and comments in Macleans were great.
Thank you for noting the press release by the Associated Jehovah’s Witnesses for Reform on Blood (www.ajwrb.org ) - http://www.ajwrb.org/Press_Release_070202.pdf . You now release that not all JWs actually accept this organization’s doctrine.
A lot of people do not realize that JWs can take one hundred (100) percent of human or animal blood as long as it is in their leadership's defined fractionated form or under their leadership's approved medical procedures (www.ajwrb.org). In fact, if whole donated blood was 100 percent fractionated and then transfused completely back to the patient at the same time in its separate forms, the JW leadership would accept the procedure. Unfortunately the technique has not been mastered in the medical world to save Witness lives. On page 22 of the June 15, 2004 Watchtower magazine (official publication for the Witnesses), the leadership actually provides a chart of what is and what is not acceptable.
Oddly, the leadership also allows Witnesses to take in white blood cells from another human during the course of a baby breast feeding from the mother but bans certain life saving white blood cell transfusions from the donated blood supply. The JW leadership does not discuss allowing white blood cell transfers during breast feeding while banning white blood cell transfers through transfusion therapy. You may wish to quiz the JW leadership or spokesperson on the issue. If leadership representatives tell you that breast feeding is natural and transfusions are not natural, remind them that their own official policy found in the June 1, 1990 and June 15, 2000 Watchtower magazines allow albumin (part of plasma) transfusions because albumin “naturally” travels between fetus and mom.
This leadership has been changing their doctrine many times (http://www.ajwrb.org/history/index.shtml#modern ). In fact the leadership supported blood therapy before 1940.
Today, the leadership bases their interpretation on certain science and medicine literature. In support of its logic, the leadership sites the breakdown of blood in "Emergency Care" (a textbook for emergency medical technician students). The Associated Jehovah's Witnesses for Reform on Blood (www.ajwrb.org ) indicate that scientifically, the breakdown is neither authoritative nor definitive. Alternatively, consider the list of major blood components as listed in Modern Blood Banking and Transfusion Practices (pages 237-248, 1999) by Denise M. Harmening, Ph.D. "Red blood cells, RBC Aliquots, Leukocyte-reduced red blood cells, frozen - deglycerolized red blood cells, platelet concentrate, single donor plasma, cryoprecipitated antihemophilic factor, granulocyte concentrates, factor VIII concentrate, porcine factor VIII, factor IX concentrate (Prothrombin Complex), immune serum globulin, normal serum albumin, plasma protein fraction, Rho(D) immunoglobulin, antithrombin III concentrate". It is noteworthy that of the sixteen major blood components listed in this definitive and widely respected textbook on transfusion medicine, nine are definitely permitted by Jehovah's Witnesses policy.
Just think about haemoglobin for a second. Ninety seven (97) percent by weight of a red blood cell (ie. haemoglobin) is allowed to be used by a JW in a medical procedure but add just three (3) more percent (ie. a membrane) and the product is banned.
You may wish to ask the leadership where in the Bible does it state red blood cells, white blood cells, platelets or plasma are not approved blood therapies but haemoglobin, albumin and the many other blood therapy products or blood transfusion therapies such as Intraoperative Autotransfusion (http://www.ajwrb.org/basics/what.shtml ) are allowed?
No one wants blood therapy if it can be avoided. But, there are times when this procedure helps to sustain life and prevent premature death as any medical doctor will tell you. Since the leadership is asking their members to make a life sacrifice or face harmful shunning by families and friends, it is important for the leadership to be honest and transparent on what they teach.
A lot of times the lawyers for the JW family (which in reality are from the Watchtower's Georgetown Ontario complex) will comment about how blood is very dangerous or that it is not medically necessary. A lot of people buy into the argument. A lot of times people including the press miss the point that blood transfusions are life saving therapies that save thousands of lives every year and that the past stored blood crisis was not caused by the blood itself but by certain individuals who decided not to properly test the blood.
If you would like to speak to a lawyer knowledgeable on the subject please contact Kerry Louderback-Wood at xxxx. She has already provided information in a recent CP story and published a lengthy legal report on the issue in the United States of America.
Take care and feel free to contact me if you need something further,