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  How can you test whether you have broken free of the mind control

  by cantleave in

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  it's been less than a year but i think i am nearly there.. i can read through a mag or sit through a meeting and instantly see through the bs.. i can watch the news without thinking is this a part of the composite sign.. i see people for what they are without trying to pigoen hole them.. i'm not worried what the elders think.. however,.

  i still show too much interest if i see something about a jw in the media.. i notice kingdom hall if driving through a new place.. i still want to stop and say hello if i see a group of witnesses on the street.. how do you guys and gals measure the progress of your exit from the cult?.

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  treadnh2o

  Simple test....

  Skip the Memorial. Feel Guilty?

  Yes. Not broken free.

  No. You are free!
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  had second thoughts about divorcing my JW wife...

  by oompa in

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  just this week after being separated a little over two months....and funny cause i just got a pm from a newbie about what it is like to leave all...including your wife or husband....anyway, i spent the day with my wife and we talked about it...it is so sad....even though we are very different in natures...i again concluded there is enough in common to be happy and grow old and avoid the very high costs to both of a divorce....except we just cant figure out how to have totally separate friends and social lives....that is kinda big and may still be the deal breaker....soooooo frustrating and infuriating..........oompa.

  here was my reply to the newbie pm:.

  leaving was terribly hard as my wife is a wonderful and attractive person...my 22 year old son is also a good dub...and my parents are not real old yet and he is a hardcore elder.

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  Oompa,

  I told my wife, five years ago I no longered believed in the JW religion. Last year I quit everything cold turkey. I also am araging apostate in my home. I moved out last spring. She wanted me back no matter my belief. I loved her. Was still attracted to her. It was far less expensive to stay. So I moved back in with her (oh yeah and got her pregnant, but thats a whole differnt story). It was the right decision for me. She has accepted me not being a JW. I simply go to NFL or MLB games on Sundays. I get a free night during the week in which I can go do whatever I like.

  My point is...If you think it will work for you, don't be afraid to try. You can bail later but she cannot remarry you after your divorce. (stupid man-made rules)
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  Why Would Someone Like me Leave the "Truth"? Part 5 (Final Installment)

  by cantleave in

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  this is a direct continuation od part iv.................................... you can imagine the reaction of the people who saw me storm out of the hall but what happened in the elders meeting after i left was even funnier.

  mike told me that there was stunned silence for about a minute.

  slimeball said well take that as his stepping down!.

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  treadnh2o

  Cantleave,

  Many are in the same boat as you. I am 38, born in, and out 1 year.I feel very similar That's the great thing anout this forum. Sometimes the things we go through truly suck. But once we have time to reflect, it can really help a person grow. When the growth comes in the ability to break free from the bonds created by this religion, the end result is rewarding but the scaring never goes away.

  All the best (or Good Luck) moving forward.
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  Why Would Someone Like me Leave the "Truth"? Part 5 (Final Installment)

  by cantleave in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is a direct continuation od part iv.................................... you can imagine the reaction of the people who saw me storm out of the hall but what happened in the elders meeting after i left was even funnier.

  mike told me that there was stunned silence for about a minute.

  slimeball said well take that as his stepping down!.

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  treadnh2o

  I learned from a very young age that this is a "good old boys club". It had nothing to do with holy spirit. (How did I get appointed while turning in bogus f.s. reports).

  Guess you weren't one of them cantleave.

  FYI-I really enjoyed your series of posts. You do come across a little bitter though, But it's okay to be. You probably feel you wasted a good part of your life slaving for a false cause.
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  What would u do if ur girlfriend tells u that u call her toomuch,that u should be calling once in 2weeks?

  by Ugonna in

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  treadnh2o

  "Nevertheless, there are differing needs for attention in a relationship. If "Ugonna" is unhappy with a once-every-two-weeks telephone call, he should move on."

  Once every two weeks does not constitute a "girlfriend". Granted if it's a "booty call" every two weeks......Call it whatever she wants......
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  What would u do if ur girlfriend tells u that u call her toomuch,that u should be calling once in 2weeks?

  by Ugonna in

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  treadnh2o

  "Nevertheless, there are differing needs for attention in a relationship. If "Ugonna" is unhappy with a once-every-two-weeks telephone call, he should move on."

  Once every two weeks does not constitute a "girlfriend". Granted if it's a "booty call" every two weeks......Call it whatever she wants......
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  Helping those out, that I helped put in, or just stop meddling?

  by undertheradar in

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  i was wrong when i was so sure i was right before.

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  i feel a responsibility but i am confused.. also, any ideas for preparing vulnerable family members prior to pulling the rug out from under them?.

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  treadnh2o

  Be careful.

  You may try to pull the rug out....

  and only end up hurting your back.
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  Opened a Watchtower Today!

  by treadnh2o in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it's been a few years, i had some time to spare and it was there.

  not considering the actual message, here is what hit me, hard:.

  the font is larger than that used by any secular publication that one would consider intellectual.. the language is so basic that it would bore the educated but would be embraced by those who were "simple" or perhaps mentally challenged.it alsowould not promote thinking as their was so little substance.. i then checked an awake and it is much the same.

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  treadnh2o

  It's been a few years, I had some time to spare and it was there. Not considering the actual message, here is what hit me, hard:

  The font is larger than that used by any secular publication that one would consider intellectual.

  The language is so basic that it would bore the educated but would be embraced by those who were "simple" or perhaps mentally challenged.It alsowould not promote thinking as their was so little substance.

  I then checked an AWAKE and it is much the same. It really is obvious why this religion attracts; older ones (font size), uneducated people, foreigners with little grasp of the language and those with "mental issues.

  I am not trying to be demeaning to anyone, but I really felt like these magazines were designed to prey on those less fortunate.

  IMHO
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  What would u do if ur girlfriend tells u that u call her toomuch,that u should be calling once in 2weeks?

  by Ugonna in

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  treadnh2o

  You guys are all WRONG!

  He should send her flowers, every day. Call her in the middle of the night, every night. Show up at her work, unannounced at least once a week.

  Send her mother flowers, text her hourly, buy a crazy expensive gift, perhaps diamonds. Take her dad to a sporting event. Start calling her best friends daily, buy night vision gogles and make sure she isn't cheating on you, perhaps even hire a P.I. just to be sure.

  'Cause if he hasn't figured it out yet, he might just be crazy enough to do these things.
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  The increasing number of the anointed. Comments, anyone?

  by dgp in

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  i'm very much enjoying "the orwellian world of jehovah's witnesses", by heather and gary botting.

  now, this excerpt comes very much to the point of this thread, i believe:.

  page 145: "still, in 1975 the society clearly feared a continuation of the upward trend in memorial partakers, and in an article entitled "annointing to a heavenly hope - how is it manifest?

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  Farkel,

  You just got me thinking!

  All they need to do is somehow figure out a way to claim "new light" entailing the this interpretation should have been 144,000 from each of the twelve tirbes of Isreal. That gives them 1,728,000.

  Problem solved!

  See I can pull this stuff out of my a** just like the GB.