just a couple of set of ground rules i would like to set for this.
frequently, one of two options for those who want to leave jw's are 1) a purposeful, public, resignation (or disassociation as jw's call it) vs 2) what is commonly called in the ex jw internet world, "the fade".
i know that emotions run deep on this subject for good reason, because of what is at stake, and all that is perceived to be lost.
The only reason I chose fade over DA is my wife asked me to take that route.
I stopped altogether in Jan. and have not been back since except for the memorial.
I will smoke cigars in public if only for the reason I would love to be Df'd. Then it's not my decision. But I would not meet w/ a JC. Because I do not view them as an authority on any level.
Great thread, although I believe we will be seeing the pace of those leaving rapidly increase when people get tired of wasting their lives.
so be careful.......there may be one out of ten.....or a hundred or a thousand......... and even the unreal one was pretty real....but had major issues..............oomps.
we are a very small club......compared to udders..........
Sorry oompa! I should have told you I was born a man.
You are a good kisser though! LOL!
they are not your leaders!.
here it is, in print, on page 110 above the picture of "the nine".. "the governing body relies on god's holy spirit for direction.
its members do not regard themselves as the leaders of jehovah's people.
Any thought that this is simply a legal statement? Sounds like the thought of getting rid of the PO. This has Legal department all over it.
Or perhaps it is just more wiggle room for false teachings.
But disagree with them....
if your partner is a zealous jw, does he/she knows you are coming here?.
do you try to keep it a secret?
did he/she found out...?
When she saw I had over 500 posts she stopped believing it was an infrequent visit. Private browsing on my Mac is pretty cool though.
the conventions must be kicking off in west palm beach this weekend.
a tv station did a little piece on it.
be sure to watch the video in the upper right hand corner.. http://www.wptv.com/mostpopular/story/jehovahs-witnesses-prepare-believers-for-the-end/ho63h5z-q0akzmfqhmrwvw.cspx.
My coworkers ALL saw this and it was a constant joke in my office. The quotes were:
Quick run up the credit cards!
Go on vacation!
Quit your job!
And the best one...." How long have they been saying this?"
Of course all at my expense, as they knew my wife and kids were their. Still I was laughing with them and giving them more accurate info in which they all were saying "cult, cult".
i remember thinking growing up that i wasn't sure it was the true religion but because my family were so sure of themselves and so many people believed it that i loved and respected it had to of been the truth.. then, i reasoned that because we were the only ones who fulfilled the preaching work that there was no other way any other religion could be the true religion except us.
plus, we used jehovah's name and didn't take it out of the bible but the preaching work was really the main thing that kept me in.... i was always afraid to really study just the bible because i knew a ton of things might not be right.
otherwise, why would so many jws be afraid to run into a greek scholar out in field service.
Just like leftbelow, every time I prepared a public talk the deeper I researched certain points the less they made sense. I was preparing a talk on prophecy and it dawned on me, If this was the only true religion, couldn't they get something right. Anything!
Then I decided to ride it out, not making waves. But when the third meaning of the "generation" came out in 14 years, that was it.I was done with the lies, I would follow the command I shared with so many people, to "Get out of Babylon the Great".
So that's the way I rolled.....
i think i was 22 when that book came out.. and i remember the being at the convention remembering how much i appreciated it.. and even at that age - feeling like that book was for me.. but how do you feel about it today?.
i don't have a copy of it anymore, but i do remember it being one of the better books.. thoughts?.
LOL-Waffles
can't help but think my fade us complete.
my wife, kids and parents are all at the dc right now and i am home.
i played golf yesterday, smoked a cigar and drank way too much.
Wobbly,
The fade is about me not them-It ends when I say it ends.
I personally don't believe the recovery can ever end. It messes up ones head to drastically.
can't help but think my fade us complete.
my wife, kids and parents are all at the dc right now and i am home.
i played golf yesterday, smoked a cigar and drank way too much.
I don't care if the game changes, as I view these Elders as VERY insignificant is my life.
I won't DA because my wife asked me not to. If I get DF'd, it's not my decision.
I really don't care if I p*ss any elders off. Most of them have VERY disfunctional brains anyway.
Its probably why i feel the fade is over- because I really don't care.
can't help but think my fade us complete.
my wife, kids and parents are all at the dc right now and i am home.
i played golf yesterday, smoked a cigar and drank way too much.
Can't help but think my fade us complete. My wife, kids and parents are all at the DC right now and I am home. I played Golf yesterday, smoked a cigar and drank WAY too much. With the exception of the memorial, have not been to a meeting in 2009. I met with the elders once two months ago and don't think they will DF me for fear of me making life miserable for the wife. Guess I am really out!
Is this what you call a power fade?
