Thank you Misery...
I have spent the last hour reading the previous 5 pages. I want to scream - it is so infuriating.
Where are the mothers in all of this? Do they not have a voice of how their own children are raised?????!!!!??? It is time for the mothers to say "F*** your position as an elder, dear husband, but these are MY children! They do not belong to anyone else but us! It is my way or the F'in' highway!"
Didn't Willie Nelson write a song about this?
Mama don't let your babies grow up to be J'dubs
Make em be doctors and lawyers and such