this jw (like so many do) avoids discussing the real issues at hand and instead opts for: .
do jehovah's witnesses have pedophiles in their mists?.
yes but look at everyone else that does too and they're much worse.. i'm not even going to mention how badly he defends the un scandal, i'll let you read it yourself.. this guy has your typical "holier-than-thou" attitude.
dutchie: Matthew 23:10 says that our Leader is Jesus Christ.
Reply: Thank you. Finally an intelligent post. However, while he is our leader, we have others also. The following are from the English Revised Version:
"Obey your leaders and submit to their authority." Heb 13:17
"Remember your leaders, who spoke God's message to you." Heb 13:7
"Greet all your leaders and all God's people." Heb 13:24
So, the Bible is not as exclusive in these areas as we would like to believe.
this jw (like so many do) avoids discussing the real issues at hand and instead opts for: .
do jehovah's witnesses have pedophiles in their mists?.
yes but look at everyone else that does too and they're much worse.. i'm not even going to mention how badly he defends the un scandal, i'll let you read it yourself.. this guy has your typical "holier-than-thou" attitude.
I'm sorry, I hadn't realized the question was that difficult.
Let me ask you again, slowly this time. From the Bible...w h o i s y o u r l e a d e r?
this jw (like so many do) avoids discussing the real issues at hand and instead opts for: .
do jehovah's witnesses have pedophiles in their mists?.
yes but look at everyone else that does too and they're much worse.. i'm not even going to mention how badly he defends the un scandal, i'll let you read it yourself.. this guy has your typical "holier-than-thou" attitude.
Sucks: Wow, so does this mean that a**holes go to heaven?
Reply: No, that term is reserved for senior members of this board.
Again, it is not that hard of a question: From the Bible...who is your leader?
this jw (like so many do) avoids discussing the real issues at hand and instead opts for: .
do jehovah's witnesses have pedophiles in their mists?.
yes but look at everyone else that does too and they're much worse.. i'm not even going to mention how badly he defends the un scandal, i'll let you read it yourself.. this guy has your typical "holier-than-thou" attitude.
Interesting diatribe Francois, but you have addressed absolutely nothing.
Let me ask you. From the Bible...who is your leader?
Perhaps you can ask your slimmed down "diety perfect" God.
this jw (like so many do) avoids discussing the real issues at hand and instead opts for: .
do jehovah's witnesses have pedophiles in their mists?.
yes but look at everyone else that does too and they're much worse.. i'm not even going to mention how badly he defends the un scandal, i'll let you read it yourself.. this guy has your typical "holier-than-thou" attitude.
Let me ask you. From the Bible...who is your leader?
this jw (like so many do) avoids discussing the real issues at hand and instead opts for: .
do jehovah's witnesses have pedophiles in their mists?.
yes but look at everyone else that does too and they're much worse.. i'm not even going to mention how badly he defends the un scandal, i'll let you read it yourself.. this guy has your typical "holier-than-thou" attitude.
As I had said earlier, which you all ignore, is that I fall under the umbrella of the new covenant.
You people on this board, do not. You don't have any mediator, and you are without hope. Oh, I know you think you do, but that does not make it so.
God made a covenant with Noah, but all share in it.
God made a covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob Ex 2:24, but all share in it.
They were mediators of their respective covenants.
God made a covenant with Moses also, but not all Israel benefited.
Moses was the mediator of the old covenant, yet only the high priests were able into the Holy of the Holies, to stand before the person of God for us.
What are the elect called? Priests!
"He made them a kingdom of priests for our God; and they will rule over the earth." Rev 5:10
"and has made us a kingdom of priests for His God and Father." C.B. Williams NT
this jw (like so many do) avoids discussing the real issues at hand and instead opts for: .
do jehovah's witnesses have pedophiles in their mists?.
yes but look at everyone else that does too and they're much worse.. i'm not even going to mention how badly he defends the un scandal, i'll let you read it yourself.. this guy has your typical "holier-than-thou" attitude.
Busted?!
Everything you quoted complements everything I have said. You only highlighted the parts you wanted to concentrate on. I find this is a big problem with this board. You all are selective in your findings.
this jw (like so many do) avoids discussing the real issues at hand and instead opts for: .
do jehovah's witnesses have pedophiles in their mists?.
yes but look at everyone else that does too and they're much worse.. i'm not even going to mention how badly he defends the un scandal, i'll let you read it yourself.. this guy has your typical "holier-than-thou" attitude.
According to J.H. Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon, MESITHS means, "one
who intervenes between two, either in order to make or restore peace
and friendship, OR TO FORM A COMPACT, or FOR RATIFYING A COVENANT...
[also denotes an] arbitrator, (Vulg. [and A.V. mediator).
The Bible uses the word "mediator" in connection
with covenants only. The New Testament discuss two
primary covenants which concern Christians. One is the new covenant,
and the other is the covenant for a kingdom.
"For there is one God, and one mediator [MESITHS] between God and
men, the man Christ Jesus" (KJV).
In 1 Tim. 2:5, Paul seems to say that Jesus is the MESITHS for all Christians. Is this the case? Some have pointed out that Paul did not say that Jesus is a mediator of certain men. He also did not say that
Jesus was a mediator for all men either. Which argument of silence
will we therefore use? Is Jesus the mediator for all Christians or
for some Christians? In view of the definition of MESITHS, and in
view of the manner in which the Bible uses the word "mediator," we
must conclude that Paul was saying that Jesus is the mediator for all
persons in the new covenant. Back in the first century, when the book
of 1 Tim. was written, there was only the heavenly hope.
this jw (like so many do) avoids discussing the real issues at hand and instead opts for: .
do jehovah's witnesses have pedophiles in their mists?.
yes but look at everyone else that does too and they're much worse.. i'm not even going to mention how badly he defends the un scandal, i'll let you read it yourself.. this guy has your typical "holier-than-thou" attitude.
Mediator:
Heb.9
[15] "Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred which redeems them from the transgressions under the first covenant." RSV
I fall under the unbrella of that new covenant, though I may not be of the firstfruits. Jesus is my mediator. As the Insight Book says under Mediator:
These not in the new covenant also appreciate that "there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved." (Ac 4:12) They, too, look to Jesus Christ as their great heavenly High Priest, through whom they can approach God and through whose ministration they can get forgiveness of sin. (Heb 4:14-16) Revelation 21:22-24 points out that 'the nations will walk in the light of New Jerusalem,' where Jehovah God is the light and the Lamb Jesus Christ is the lamp.
this jw (like so many do) avoids discussing the real issues at hand and instead opts for: .
do jehovah's witnesses have pedophiles in their mists?.
yes but look at everyone else that does too and they're much worse.. i'm not even going to mention how badly he defends the un scandal, i'll let you read it yourself.. this guy has your typical "holier-than-thou" attitude.
Well hawk, I am big enough to let you have the last word. You complain that only JW's think they are right, yet you will not allow any other opinion to counter yours. Only YOU are right, aren't you? Admittedly, the WTS should have used more foresight in some of their decision, but having access to public information is a far cry from the devotional admiration set forth by religious groups in the WT articles you esteem so greatly.Your need to believe otherwise belies your psychological dependence on this. After, this whole UN thing is yourt schtick, isn't it. This is how you have chosen to define yourself.
You all speaking of "healing", yet you will not allow the JW's to make corrective measuresn themselves. For you it is a courage to heal, for us it is deemed a sign of God's disapproval. How does that look if we turn things around?
Guess what folks, we are going to continue to make mistakes, we leave claims of infallibility for the pope. All in all, we are going to continue to shine better than other faiths, in all areas.
Part 2:
Ok lets go.
I am a potential convert you know.
Reply: No you're not, you wouldn't be here otherwise.
I want to know what YOU believe.
I have asked you many questions but you have ignored every one.
Why do all JWs I have ever asked a question of always run away?
(same questions too)
Are you strong enough in the faith to stand up to tough questions?
Are you humble enough to accept a fact when it is a fact?
Are you married to the truth[tm] instead of the TRUTH?
Reply: Big build up...and then *nothing.* Or was that last one THE question.
Sir, whatever I believe can be supported by the Bible. That's is what it comes down to, does it not?
